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2-3hrs... Don't really remember, was planning on staying the night at the doc hut near the top of the saddle but it started raining and I had had a good look round so came home early.

Goats seen...

Is that the one off the inland road? Of so yes, got permission from the station there ($50 iirc) drove in to quail flat and down to the clearance for a look around.

Hairpins are pretty steep and...