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nailed it.

thats what they see... with lots of deer around....
because i feel we dont kill enough hinds (overall). if we kill enough hinds, theres less percieved populations.... no need to...

yeah fair points there too mate,
here , illegal thermal an spotlight shooters are also taking more than a fair share of trophy deer in our 'back country' as alot of it has 4x4 tracks through it,...

RE wapiti, yeha Foreigners to pay more.
But now we are Crying about an Aussie who shoots a big Wap, whilst the locals have shot a heap of "red cross" shit and didnt get a wap....

you could of...

Yeah this is a bit head in the Sandish really mate, i apprecate ya opinion but sheesh, keep it in the shearing shed... theres always guna be slight imperfections in which the cocky with his 200...

there could and would be some very very old Hinds living in close proximitey to Farm land and Doc land in a secluded corner! possibly more than we think.
an more odds of that happening than...

anyway, theyve been witnessed to breed much earlier, an your experience could be 4 animals or it could be 400, so there is a possibility that the current trend of 600 hinds to 1x stag means Stag...

well in the 3 months, every twelve months, it will have the baby. :thumbsup:

sorry simple terms., the female deer of whichever age, will , each year, produce? a fawn each time the rut comes...

Id say suprisingly Early in New Zealand without any natural predators unlike here in Australia, Dingo and even a hungry enough Fox may take advantage of a real Fresh Calf/Fawn/baby deer....... ...

Not entirely.............. a phrase used is "if it pays it stays" when it comes to political stuff ....... so say for example in the National Park only, the Doc or Parks mob had "limited entry...

Thanks for expressing your views mate, it can make arguements in future directed at the right people , a little easier to express positively by seeing different perspectives.

i pay memebrship to the Deer assosc to Express their views to the Parliment in regard to what we are doing, an i hope they do it with our brest interest at heart an use the correct terminology ,
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Im not selling to general public though, im selling to Hunters in the Same forests, in which i seek a higher overall quality of hunting.

to elaborate-

thats another thing to the hunter in which...

also side note- alot of kiwi hutner gatherer channels etc, more the merrier on 'utilising a ribs' or ya know, more odd videos included into the hunt at the end just showin a quick backsteak meal, or...

Yeap bro this is the big picture though in my opinion :)

above and beyond the Quality deer management for Antlers :)

antlers is just easier to begin to discuss the process of management ,which...

This is a huge factor,
ive been doing my own researches in ways i cant explain, but i talk to quite alot of shooters and i pick up what gets put down around the place , to my knowledge .....

Good call RE the bush hunting, it can be argued too because some guys are calm as an seen plenty up close, others, it is a complete buzz, everythin goes out the windows when ya see those gold sticks...

i did make a thread about it an ask why it only had 60 or so little views.. perhaps it was 700, but it needed to be seen by every hunter in nz and aus for that matter

Over Flow from the Stags thread Regarding Ethics during the Roar, Future of Stags and Meat..................


Go over there to check it out an get up to speed, spill ya beans over here.

Hooroo...