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Yeah, the Prems are probably a bit bigger than I was expecting too.

The Mark 6 is only 12 inches long and has a 44mm obj so might fit your requirements. 34mm tube and turrets are pretty big though!

Z6 is about as close is you're going to get.

I take it your Prem is not floating your boat?

I dont know about the VX6. Turrets are supposed to be rubbish. In saying that I have not checked one in person. Sneeze maybe?

However, I have ordered a Mark 6 3-18. Its the first time in a long...