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In the video they reckoned 1:10 was okay and probably 1:11, but 1:12 try without a suppressor first.

Do they do a 10-turn zero stop version? :P

Yeah, I had a play with Strelok, assuming a BC of 0.2 subs would still doing 800fps at 350m, waaaaaay past the distance I'd be shooting subs at!

I had a notification of Hornadys new products this afternoon.
They are doing 30-30, 450 bushmaster and 45/70 subsonic ammunition, and class it as suitable for deer sized game.
And the 190gr 308...