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Its fiddy a box at least for the sub x so if you just want a couple to try a couple im also in Northland and have them on hand

Its so easy and good performing I just use it anyway

roberts 151s are worth the effort to reduce cost

the subx are $2.50 per pop so there is a saving to be had

im yet to have anything need a second shot but most get one anyway

discrete...

I use the sub x stuff for everything from dog food peacocks to humanely dispatching my homekills

my barrel is 12.5 inches tho