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Just realized i lost track of this thread. I roughly measure the LOP at 13.6" on the hunter. Im dont mean its getting close to my face during recoil as thats fine. Its more that i have to really try...

Don't wear much hunting usually a thin long sleeve top.

Cheers il measure the hunter soon. The adirondack is the same stock as my Mt ascent and the Montana. And I noticed this problem while hunting and trying to get setup on the best cham buck I've seen....

I have two and have always felt that they are usable but a touch short leading to a scope in your face when shooting steep uphill even with the scope pushed all the way forward. I haven't measured...