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This isn't really fair on my behalf. I was in a bad mood at the time due to unrelated events. It doesn't add to the discussion and isn't helpful at all. I don't really think it matters how much we...

Newshub not prone to exaggeration?

They come in their droves every normal year anyway. I judge them by a stricter set of rules as to be fair they can't take the meat home so realistically they...

Yes grew up in the Bay of Plenty. Hunted the Kaimais, Kaimanawas and Pureoras primarily. Did venture out towards waikaremoana a few times otherwise no have never hunted Waioeka Gorge or Motu Doc land...

I said we (hunters) pay for Ballots (which are popular) not to pay to hunt but it's not a far stretch that paying for ballots is paying for a better hunting experience which is what is suggested...

Pardon I'm a bit confused by the question? I'm saying the don't make profit and talking to a few people they usually lose money. It was mentioned that if we paid for hunting that they would see it...

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Its not just about heads its also about forcing take to be focused on Hinds because stags aren't an option unless you have a tag/license. I think we as hunters should be...

I'd say they probably have more than that although havent in there only takes a couple deer a catchment that wouldn't even cover the deer in a single catchment in some places.

I disagree it would end up just foreigners shooting the mature animals as its an easy solve by limiting % of foreign hunters and by making them pay more so less foreigners apply. Keep local prices...

I don't believe things have to be justified financially and I hate it when we try to make it sound justified by finances. I agree things that make money stick around but somethings should exist just...

Was glad to see a similar message to this thread put forward on last night's NZ Hunter episode.

Good to know. Is that to do with the fact its on a different license etc?

DOC or fish and game?

I definitely don't agree that should be the case. Foreigners should definitely pay and it the cases of ballots etc they should pay significantly more similar to how it works in the states. Ie in...

Thing is we also need to encourage less release too in regards to hinds. I know I let many go I should maybe have shot it only considering the ecosystem.

Yes for sure and I understand that and hence why this is all discussion of ideas and potential solutions to the problems that arise.

Hunters however are often very hard to get that point across...

I agree and think that was a significant loss to hunters chances of meaningful change. The institutional (hate that word) distrust between DOC upper management and hunters is a serious issue....

Agree with this however I think again the issue of enforcement rises it's head once again as well as the dirty word trophy. But I think its another idea to add to the piles of potentials if we can...

I'm not picking on grammar mines not perfect I can read misplet words fine. But if you can't understand what's being said except only the odd bit then it's useless. It's really as simple as reading...

I think this post falls pretty well under the last catagory don't forget to include it. ��

I too thought some payment for jaws etc. The issue is too low and noone bothers and high enough and you will start getting people abuse it by either shooting the shit out of areas which isnt...

Yes from what I read of it it seemed reasonable just poorly enacted and also somewhat easily warped to be used in a manner other than intended (like many things legal).

I think people are pretty open about these areas ie pretty much everywhere near the divide in Canterbury, but the tendency still seems to be to target stags. Subsidized flights are hard as the extra...

Did you see the Tahr Foundation post?

Exactly I think your point on maintaining social license to hunt is hugely important as it lies hand in hand with firearms. A good point that makes sense I hadn't thought of.

It was a nice change wasn't it. Itd be nice if it was the norm not the exception.