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Thank you Tahr for that information i was not aware of this, mite explain why they are cagey an not out roaming the open ground so much.

cheers for the reply sikaroar, Yeah me an the missus went up, didn't push to far as we were late getting in, the track is a bit of a wet slog going up however when you get up in there it is...

Hey heading over tongariro park to chase a deer looking at going in around Hauhungatahi, has anyone been in that area lately and are numbers good in this area?