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That's not entirely stupid and yes I've harboured similar thoughts, although I'm too mean to give up on it yet . . . . it is a fussy bastard

So tonight we tried some different things, it was a bit beyond my control (gunshop being obliging and tying things). Changed projectile to Sierra 100 gn TGK's and powder to Stabil 6.5. All loads...

Yes I have VLD seating stems in my dies (223 and 6mm)

The thing thats really bugging me about this . . . my 223 target rifle was also shooting poorly with 80 gn Sierra's aka long snooty buggers...

I blame Kiwi-Hunter - he started calling it "crudmore" and everything has gone downhill from there . . . .

Hahaha, see you when our rabbit holes merge!

A standard Hornady "New Dimension" size die. I just took 3 new Norma 6.5 cases, resized them to 6.0mm. They came out with an average of .04MM (0.0015 ??) runout on the neck. With projectiles...

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Bloody 6mm Crudmore. After getting a "new to me" press and making sure I was using VLD type seating stems I'm still only getting 25mm groups @100M and I'm thinking its run-out related.

I built a...