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Iv personally found the recoil much more of a push moving from my snappy muzzle jumping 168vld load in my saum to the 180eldm load short barrel light rifle doesn’t make much sense to me but it’s...

Yea they seem to run 2750-2850 with the ones iv seen plenty of speed for that big projectile

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You can come have a play with mine it’s not a very good example though because it’s probably abit light I struggle to spot target impacts but I think that’s the blast I can spot shots on animals...