Thread: Recovered Amax

For those who maybe interested here is 30 cal 178grain recovered from a red deer.
Launched at 2975fps at a touch over 400y for an impact velocity of around 2170fps.





Shot hit some bone there was an exit hole presumably from bone or flesh pushed out in front of the bullet, found just under skin on off side.
Retained weight is 70 grain or 74 grain including copper shard.
My first recovered amax(I think?), have shot fair few with the 168 and usually don't get an exit and don't find anything other than tiny copper fragments.
It was expanded right back to the base and the lead fell out when cleaning it.

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Good shot that one.

Very typicle VC almost if not every A max ive hit with has done the exact same thing and looks identicle.

yep same, 168amax launched at slightly faster than that looked the same after connecting with a bull tahrs front shoulder at 475yards.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

yep same, 168amax launched at slightly faster than that looked the same after connecting with a bull tahrs front shoulder at 475yards.

Interesting , I was launching the `168 at only 2750fps and they usually completely disintegrated without exiting less than 300y and more than that they would sometimes exit. Never recovered one.

Yeah i have had good results. Exited all the chamois that ive shot from 50-400yards (big exit)

Both mature bull tahr that have been shot they havent exited, both projectiles found on offside shoulder after punching through quite a bit of bone. one of the projectiles had shed a fair amount of material tho. Guess there is just so many variables aye.

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

Yeah i have had good results. Exited all the chamois that ive shot from 50-400yards (big exit)

Both mature bull tahr that have been shot they havent exited, both projectiles found on offside shoulder after punching through quite a bit of bone. one of the projectiles had shed a fair amount of material tho. Guess there is just so many variables aye.

Yep always variables, everything has died with the 168 but some of the close ones could have died a bit quicker

Its the plastic bits at the front that results in such poor performance lol. I think I would much rather have complete penetration of the biggest part of the projectile. It results in much quicker break down of the vital functions when there is heaps of air getting in. Lungs do not operate well unless in a vacuum.

Interesting vindication of my beliefs about target projectiles terminal performance on game animals

Originally Posted by 260hunter

Its the plastic bits at the front that results in such poor performance lol. I think I would much rather have complete penetration of the biggest part of the projectile. It results in much quicker break down of the vital functions when there is heaps of air getting in. Lungs do not operate well unless in a vacuum.

Interesting vindication of my beliefs about target projectiles terminal performance on game animals

I certainly don't advocate their use at close ranges in 30 cal(they seem to be more explodey than the 6.5 and7mm variants probably due to the low sectional density IE short for weight)
I love 130ttsx barnes up close 0-350y but when distance is getting out, velocity and energy is dropping off, a very frangible projectile that will dump most of its remaining energy in the animal and cause as big as wound channel as possible is the only humane option.
While this was "close" for an amax even at moderate velocity it dropped where it stood.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

While this was "close" for an amax even at moderate velocity it dropped where it stood.

Can't ask for more than that

Here's the 162gr (7mm) A-max that was recovered from the offside shoulder of the red stag i shot a couple of weeks back.

Muzzle velocity of 2,990 fps, shot at 470 yards, impact velocity of approx 2,360 fps, the jacket and lead core were found 3 cm apart in the offside leg, didn't quite make the skin. Total weight of both pieces is 76gr.



I guess some would say the bullet failed by separating, but i was quite happy with the performance, it smashed through both front shoulder blades, poleaxed him, he didnt take a step, just 2 cartwheels down hill and didn't get up.

Mean. I am running the 168gr A Max in my .308. What sort of impact velocity can I expect them to open up down to? Spitting them out just under 2700fps with 2208 in a 24". Want to chop it to 18" and experiment with 8208 and 2206H

Originally Posted by Beavis

Mean. I am running the 168gr A Max in my .308. What sort of impact velocity can I expect them to open up down to? Spitting them out just under 2700fps with 2208 in a 24". Want to chop it to 18" and experiment with 8208 and 2206H

I still had impressive wound channel on nanny Tahr @705y launched at 2750 (I shan't be repeating that in anything other than perfect conditions)

Your range limit with 168s out of 308 is more dictated by wind(the slightest breeze) and abillity to accuratly land the shot than impact velocity.

Thanks, I want to be able to humanely despatch stuff at 500m and in with that rig

Originally Posted by Beavis

Thanks, I want to be able to humanely despatch stuff at 500m and in with that rig

Have you shortened your 308 yet Beavis ?