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Belmont's retail/normal ammo is about $43 per 50 but they also have "seconds" which have minor scratches and tiny dings for way less. I just got some to try v their std retail ammo. So its cheaper...

ouch, think I'll stay with Belmont 2nds, $27.50 for 50

Good to know, I wondered if it was the projectiles or the loading or both that makes them so poor. Think I'll avoid them, though the 303brit FMJs they do are not bad.

"hornady training ammo" this is obsolete? cannot see it on the Hornady web site.

Those to prices are not bad per 1000, barnauls look a bit expensive by comparison. It would be interesting to shoot all 3 to see which ones does the best (or any other cheap projectiles)

A new gun site no less., added to my list. Bugger they have Stag model 1 or 4 in stock....and the price isnt bad at all.