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The only rag I stuffed in it VC was the petrol soaked 1 to set it on fire :)
Turing circle of the Holden is similar to a super tanker as well.

GO THE FORD!!! :ORLY:

Haha not really VC. I got "cleared" OK.
But I am slightly biased towards the brand. Too many years working on the POS.
They not doing themselves any favours in recent times though.

My mates...

Out of those 2, I'd go for the Hilux.
Mate of mine has a Colorado and it is really gutless. Couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. His old 2.8 non turbo Hiace pulls the rally car heaps better...