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The only joke was the service I got...still have not sent it back, once they do I'm going to have a go at patching it myself.

Reflex was a different stuff, similar but aimed at repelling water...

Actually it ain't bad, keeps rain off when I'm on the motorbike, I do rub an oil/ wax stuff into it fairly regularly but.

Born and bred in Christchurch, does that count?

It was their top of the line alpine jacket, $599...

Hmm, my leather jacket is 30 years old this year and still going strong...

[QUOTE=StrikerNZ;580023]Just how old was the gore-tex jacket?[/QUO
Would be just under 20 years, it's the newest bit of macpac gear I have besides a couple of newer day packs, but it's still...

So I have lots of macpac gear, most of it is old stuff that I have had and used for years, none of it is modern macpac nut I will not be getting any more.

I have two big packs, two down sleeping...