Thread: 162gr Amax in a short barrled 7mm-08?

Spend more time shooting and less time worrying about bullets.

Originally Posted by MDub

Is velocity better than weight?

Your scope in the photo does not look to be a dial able scope.
Some on here can forget that not everyone is a long range shooter and dials every shot.
At the ranges you mention a middle weight projectile going faster will flatten your trajectory a bit making point and shoot type hunting a lot easier.
It is not until ranges get longer that the heavyweights have any significant advantage.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Your scope in the photo does not look to be a dial able scope.
Some on here can forget that not everyone is a long range shooter and dials every shot.
At the ranges you mention a middle weight projectile going faster will flatten your trajectory a bit making point and shoot type hunting a lot easier.
It is not until ranges get longer that the heavyweights have any significant advantage.

Years ago now when Night Force, PM II, rangefinder & ballistics program where "WTF are you talking about" I had a 7Saum Titanium.

When looking for load data etc because none was around, the cartridge was brand new, a well know guy told me to use N165 & 162 Amaxes.

I already knew the factory 150s beat me up @ 3150 fps, there was no way I wanted a hiding from 162s especially after checking their drop over my normal 0-300 yard hunting distances.

The 139 SSTs where really hard on the pigs up close, I went lighter to 110-115s, real fast & flat, they killed like lightning, holding over & recoil wasn't a problem.

I wasn't shooting big animals, mainly pigs with the odd Red & Fallow chucked it, it worked great with the Kahles 3-12 x 56 on top

Never should have sold it, replaced it with a Kimber 325 Wsm, would have been the first one in the country, it didn't work for me anywhere near as well as the 7Saum

I shoot 140g Berger VLD out of my 708, AR2209 48g is giving me 2660 from an 18' supressed T3

Dont get hung up on BC til you are shooting past 400, yeah it is important when calculating stuff but 5-400 dont get hung up. Get a bullet that is accurate and then work from there. I have sat and played with BC and speed in shooter and it makes jack all diff really, but only my honest opinion, i am sure there will be others that disagree. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid

Hamish

Velocity rules inside 300-400 yds , BC rules past there. But at the end of the day a 140gr at 2800 or a 162 at 2500 will both kill a deer.

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

You would be better off with 150g Nosler Ballistic Tips, the reduced velocity will favour the BT for on game performance.

The 140 BT is a better choice again

Yep I came to the exact same conlusion, which is why I have a box of 140 nbt's sitting in the garage waiting for the neck die to arrive

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Recoil and less point blank range.

says a man with a three oh eight hah

Originally Posted by gimp

says a man with a three oh eight hah

You sure?

does he not have one anymore? gosh

30 something

But I like worrying about bullets, if I didn't I'd just keep buying factory ammo

Originally Posted by gimp

does he not have one anymore? gosh

I upraded to a 303.

I didnt run heavy for cal in the 08 up close either, just makes no sense.

Just one thing:
Aren't 162 amax rather explosives on game shot at short ranges?
If it is the case, and if you are not shooting past 400 m, then maybe a more intermediate bullet would suit better.
How is that rifle shooting by the way?

My friend uses the A max out of his 708 for general hunting. Leaving the tube around 2600 if I recall. He has shot a few deer at bush range and knocked them all over.

Originally Posted by Friwi

Just one thing:
Aren't 162 amax rather explosives on game shot at short ranges?
If it is the case, and if you are not shooting past 400 m, then maybe a more intermediate bullet would suit better.
How is that rifle shooting by the way?

Best to talk velocities that bullets are frangible at rather than ranges to keep things clear. The velocities you would expect from a 708 would have the amax at very good performance velocities within the desired ranges.