Am adding a Tikka T3 lite in .270 win to my gun cabinet.
What do you recommend is projectile weight & ammo type ?
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Am adding a Tikka T3 lite in .270 win to my gun cabinet.
What do you recommend is projectile weight & ammo type ?
Are you hand loading? If so you can get nearly the same velocities from the 140 grain as the 130 grain pills.
I've loaded 140 grain SST's and comfortably get 3050fps with .495BC and sub .5 MOA after a little messing around with seating depth...I'm sure I could have shrunk the groups more but was happy with that for now.
140 grain accubonds come in at .496BC and are a favourite of mine too.
If you want cheap and cheerful then the federal blue box 130's nearly always shoot well from tikka T3's, but you will suffer at longer ranges in drift and drop with their poor BC. Were still ok on wallabies out to 500 ish yards though!
Thanks Matt ,wasn't thinking bout reloading for it at this point but it may come to that realistically.Would probably tend towards a Seirra SPSP .Not too worried about cost for the amount of ammo I use ,whats $3 for 50kg's of meat.
What are you hunting and at what ranges?
I would buy 3 or 4 packs of different makes of factory rounds and see which shoot the most accurately out of your rifle.
There are a lot of good factory loads to choose from, all will get the job done with good bullet placement, which is usually more important than what bullet you use.
Federal blue box 130's are loaded with the Speer Hot-Cor which is actually a very good bullet and has performed well on a lot of game for me...they shot sub .5 MOA out of my Tikka, so at ranges out to 350m I couldn't justify paying any more for different bullets.
For longer range hunting, Hornady Superformance will give you nearly .270WSM performance but wouldn't group under 2 MOA in my rifle!
interesting as I've bought a rem700 in 270 and thinking about what works for factory ammo. Rifle is shortened to 22inches, gunworks can.
Chris i have had my Tikka .270 for about 4 years. She absolutely loves the norma soft point 130s.
The highland are better than the federals in mine. Get bout 1 moa with the highlands and about .8 moa with the norma's.
hornady sst are shit in my gun, bout 2-3 moa, i think that they need to be seated out more than they are factory. Im an amateur though so this is only my opinion.
Oh and i also found the hornady custom 140s to be pretty good too.
I only shoot to 300m so not sure what factory round is best past that. :thumbsup:
Federal make factory Premium Accubond and Gameking loads.
Hornady Superformance ammo shoots pretty well in an A bolt I know, its just better than 0.75 inch at 100m. And 1 inch at 200m.
Im replicating performance with handloads of 130gr SST's (although im not a fan of SST's).
150gr are getting a bit heavy for 400m+ shots.
Come to think of it the Hornady Custom ammo shot very well for him but im not sure you can get it anymore
I have had a really good run out of the Federal 130 grain in my t3 270. Usually a lot of damage and they don't run to far (if at all) if you get 'em in the right spot.
Coreloct,130 magic mutchroom:sick: :thumbsup:
Highland AX 150g . . . . . . wait for the flack . . . . hehehe. Shoots good for me anyways.
Hey Chris,
I get good results out of the sierra gamekings in 130gr that I hand load. I've used sst in handloads too, and while they were accurate they do alot of meet damage on deer when used at distances under 200yds. I've stoped using them as one of the last times I nearly lost an animal as it literally blew up on impact when shoulder shot and it wasn't a pleasant experience tracking a deer for 15 mins that was slowly making it's get away on 3 legs. I'm no expert but I think the nosler Ballistic tips are very similar to the sst's.
G
Stay away from the 130 sst's mate, had a few blow ups when I used them. IntErbonds performed much better and as has been said previously the 130 federal blue packs are good value for money and do the job
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Federal blue box (Hot-core) recovered from a deer shot at about 350 meters. Was found under the far side of the deer just under the skin. They're underrated in my opinion but the BC sucks!
SST's are quite explosive at close range, I'm using 140's for a bit of extra SD and chose your shots carefully if really close.
The accubond would be a better choice for close shots or any kind of shot where shooting through heavy bone is needed.
The Nosler ballistic tips seem to be even more explosive than the SST's in my opinion.
If the sst's are explosive & have been compared to ballistic tip I won't be going near them .
Seen what a ballistic tip from a 270wsm did to a sika spiker ,hit high behind the shoulder,the back steaks from just behind the shoulder to front of hips where gone.The poor bloody animal needed a second shot to put it out of its misery ,flailing round on the ground in agony.
Ballistic tips are just nasty.
Also, I wouldn't get too hung up on BC's of a bullet unless your going to be shooting over 450yds with the .270.
I've only ever used sierra pro hunter 130 . My remmy shots them real well . Nothing has got up again either ! . Nothing over 250 yet.
When I was using factory ammo in my Tikka T3 .270 I ran Fed Powershok 130gr (Blue box) exclusively. Was getting consistent 0.5" groups at 100yds and never lost an animal. Only down side is that they dropped like a brick past 300yds due to poor BC. As others have said, definately a good place to start though, but try a few other types of ammo also to see what your rifle likes. Keep away from the SST's as they are too explosive for the speeds a .270 pushes them.
I now run 130gr Accubonds going 3060fps with x amount of AR2209 and everything shot with them goes straight down. Also had very good success with 130gr Gamekings and RL-22.
RL-22 is what I'm using, good speeds and accuracy.
I use 150gn SSTs exclusively now.
Dialled it down in speed, so nice recoil and no blow ups when close.
How do you get enough speed out of the 150gr projectiles to beat a 140gr at 500m?
On the ballistics program I have the 140gr Accubond is out performing the a 150 VLD at 500m.
The 140 is starting at 899 m/s and doing 614 m/s at 500m. With 1713 joules of energy, with 10.3 moa drop.
The 150 is starting at 853 m/s and doing 592 m/s at 500m. With 1703 joules of energy, with 11.5 moa drop.
Ok so there is fuck all real world difference there, but if I could get the 150's to go a bit faster they would be the winner. Unfortunately when they do go a bit faster the group blows out over 1.5 moa.
So what speeds are other peolpe getting 150's to go and shoot?
Dad gave me his 270 when I was 12 and I have been hunting with it since up until this year. I used to use 130gn sst's and they work a dream, I only use it now on fallow and take it hunting hog deer when I chase them but I'll be changing to Barnes tsx 140'sor Barnes ttsx 130gn. They pretty much the best projectiles that you can get anywhere and if you reload them you can do it for around $1.50 a shot.
The higher BC of the 150s means they catch up further out and since they're only at an academic tiny disadvantage closer in, they're better. You said "400m+" not "400m+ but only under 500m"
880m/s isn't unreasonable from 150s
Yea I suppose I'm sour about the fact I can't get them to shoot in the Win.
I want meaning only out to 500m. That was just a figure I punched in to strelok
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I have been shooting the 270 for a bit over 20 years and tried a lot of different hand loaded projectiles from 130gn to the 161gn.
400m is about the limit of my shooting and I hunt mainly Sika, Reds and pigs. (I never used the 161gn Lapua Mega to that distance)
For the last few years I have been using 140gn Accubonds and am very happy with them but at the end of the day I have not come across a 'bad' bullet yet. Of the dozen or so I have loaded, if I hit the animal in the right place it would kill it pretty dam quickly. I would change loads because I thought the next one might be better, not because the last one was no good.
Of course the amount of damage a projectile causes varies depending on construction and weight so you have to decide what you want out of it. A bullet that holds together well at close range may not expand much at long range and one that expands at range may fragment more close up.
Personally I would rather kill an animal quickly and loose a bit of meat than loose an animal or have to follow it for a while.
If you choose any hunting projectile of 130gn or heavier for the 270 you shouldn't have any problems if you shoot them in the boiler room.
Brenik, have you tried the 140g Nosler Ballistic Tip ?
They are a great all rounder projectile for the 270 and 270 wsm.
I can attest to the effectiveness of the Federal blue box 130gr if you are just bush hunting.
140gr sst is hard to beat for 270 goes good even in my short barrel, also use 110gr TTSX Barnes for more speed and closer shots
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Interesting about the comments of the SST's. I shoot 140gr in a Rem700 270WSM. I haven't had any explode yet, but the closest was about 375yards, very nice mushroom - see the photo(even took a nice Fiordland red stag two weeks ago at 582yards with one). They fly straight and true, and expand nicely once past a couple of hundred yards. If shooting closer, use a softpoint, hollow point or barnes when the efficiency of the projectile doesn't matter. Just make sure it has the energy to dispatch the animal as quick as possible(goes without say at longer distance too.
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Sorry, have shot a couple of Tahr at 300 yards too. Straight through, but both dead on the spot.
Here are 5 x Attachment 11071140gn accubonds recovered from deer. Shots were between 15m and 210m. All weighed between 75gn and 85gn after having done their work. I only recover a small proportion of them as they will go through most deer broadside and do a lot of damage on the way.
Make of that what you will.
My 140 6.5 amax's do the same!
Was goat shooting over New Years and was using 130gr Hornady Superformance SST's, the majority of the shots were <150m, and i found that, even though they were hit right in the vitals behind the shoulder, the goats would still run before dropping. I am new to the ballistics game so i am not quite sure what to make of it, but i am guessing the polymer tips perform better once they have slowed down a bit?
Trying the same shots with lead tip projectiles (130gr) dropped every goat in its tracks.
Can anyone shead some light on this?
Too far back?
What are you on about ? If I didn't know better I would say you must be pissed.