The .270 Western is the thing to be looking at now.
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The .270 Western is the thing to be looking at now.
I was real keen on the 2 Sako's in WSM that were for sale recently on this forum but never got a reply on some questions?
If you want to shoot a 30cal Barnes at high velocity there’s no need to buy a 300wsm, just load your 308 with a 110gr ttsx. I’ve not used them myself but they’re supposed to be devastating out to about 300yd. But the low BC restricts their performance further out, start dropping like a stone and very susceptible to wind drift.
I don’t see the point in loading a magnum with light low BC bullets. The main advantage of magnums is they have the capability of flinging heavy-for-caliber high BC projectiles at decent velocities to extend your effective shooting range, so why not utilise that capability? If you want to reliably drop deer out to 300 your 308 is completely fine, but a Barnes wouldn’t be my first choice
the barnes WONT do anything a cup n core cant do better...
Ive used them 3 times in 270 (110grn).....they work,nothing spectacular,less meat damage,but no real advantage. 2 chammy with single shot at about 150yards,stag at about hundred and hind at about 40 yards, none needed 2nd shot . Phil,stick to your 180s for up close n personal...maybe find a 150-165grn pointy flash load for out the 200-400 yard range and be happy.
I would agree with that. The Barnes developed a bit of a following amongst bush hunters using chopped and suppressed rifles. By using a light for caliber Barnes, you still got good velocity out of a short barrel and good terminal performance at bush ranges, as well as the ability to knock something over on a slip 300yd away. But give me a decent conventional projectile any day (preferably something heavyish), they perform just as well in the bush and are more consistent at 300yd+with the advantage of less wind drift. Speer btsp, hornady eldx, anything along those lines is good
Just get a 3006
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Why isn't 7mm WSM in this discussion? When I was looking into a new calibre to replace my .270 and complement my .243, it came down to 7mm WSM or SAUM for the perfect balance of ballistics and terminal performance. Near rem mag performance in a short action. If you're handloading, then you have a huge selection of projectiles. Sure, factory ammo and brass is like hens' teeth, but you can neck down the 300 WSM if needs be.
Hard to get rifles and quality cases in 7mm wsm now.
Greetings Phil,
Just wait a bit. There are bound to be at least three more whizo calibres out by the end of the year. All more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound. Most will last a few years at most meanwhile the plain old .308 will still be chugging along as it has for almost 70 years.
Regards Grandpamac,
PS I have a really nice Sendero in 7mm SAUM in the rifle cupboard. I bought it in 2014, my first new rifle for decades. I really like it and am not interested in selling it but it has fired less than 50 rounds and test loads from 2015 are still in the box.
yes I can agree with that...but so will a partition or something heavy....
Im sold on 50grn barnes in the 223 as results to date have been great....have been hearing reports later batches ARENT expanding properly....
@Phil_H anyone mentioned a 7 rem mag? "more" than the 308 does. in most aspects.
"same" as what the 270 WSM does.... but available everywhere in the world in a plethora of rifles :)
loving mine.
To Be fair though............... im sorta guna chase some thing withthe 7rem mag ballistics but a lighter rifle....... so any lighter recoil is welcomed , any more, not an option... :D
is ther 270wsm the Go ya rekon??? 600m max hunting. dial scope. needs to be less than 3.5kg as current is 4kg.
Thoughts are the lighter 7rem mags are starting to boot but definatly an option.
whereas the 270WSM, lighter gun, good length barrel still ? recoil might be there or as much being short fat as opposed to the slender rem mag...
just pretty happy with the 7rm for this distance stuff.. what do u guts say on that
It's already been made, for about 50 odd years either a 257 Weatherby or a .264 Winchester Magnum. I have 257W it's a pussy cat the .264 not much more I had one with a 1-8 barrel, sold it and if I had known the new high BC bullets were coming I woulda kept it. I've gone to the 6.5PRC nothing new in ballistics but new brass, better bullets and modern powder should equal the existing 7mm's with less recoil.