.284 ELD-X Close Range Blow Up

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Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Generally what I'm hearing from multiple customers that were using ELDX's in various calibre's is that they appeared to be causing multiple issues with unsatisfactory terminal performance ie too hard

Your experience seems to be the opposite

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It's more that the bullet performs inconsistently on the terminal end, but shoots well in smaller capacity, slower twist 7mm's.

Suspect the polymer tip and bullet nose interface is not ideal.

The 162 AMAX (not ELDM) or 180 ELDM are much better bullets all round.

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Originally Posted by Mararoa

Used the .277 145grain eldx with similar results at close range. 2900fps muzzle velocity. Way better bullets available. Wouldn’t use them again.

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What would you say is a better .277 bullet ? I've used them in 270win and wsm with 0 failures from 10 yards to 400+ so if there's a better bullet I'd love to know what it is ? Genuine query as I'll be loading 270win again real soon :cool:

Sing out if you want some 150 GRN Speer grandslams bud....

And the answer to the question of what's the best projectiles in .277 well although I've only used a few of them,the 150 GRN partition has to be right up there. And before someone screams about piss poor BC blah blah blah. If your shooting past 300 which is only time that matters,you are dialing anyway do point is moot

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

And the answer to the question of what's the best projectiles in .277 well although I've only used a few of them,the 150 GRN partition has to be right up there. And before someone screams about piss poor BC blah blah blah. If your shooting past 300 which is only time that matters,you are dialing anyway do point is moot

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Bc isnt for dialing it for retaining velocity so the bullet works for more distance. It also helps minimise wind deflection. A lower bc but proportionally faster bullet will usually have less drop out a long way.

I drive the 145 eldx in the .270 win at about 3060 fps with RL26. Very explosive.
They kill emphatically the fallow I mostly hunt. Heaps of damage and exit wounds. Very similiar to the 140 Nosler BT.
Very good broadside.

Not sure I’d want to use them on front on on really big deer like sambar. But I love the trajectory to 500.


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Originally Posted by AlpineHunter

Hey mate thanks for your thoughts. It is a data point of one animal so I am conscious about jumping to conclusions. Will play around with the 162, my first load dev wasn't that impressive accuracy wise but to be fair need to play with more seating depths.

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Bump to 162s and change powder. Seating depth isnt going to change much precision wise.

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Originally Posted by caberslash

It's more that the bullet performs inconsistently on the terminal end, but shoots well in smaller capacity, slower twist 7mm's.

Suspect the polymer tip and bullet nose interface is not ideal.

The 162 AMAX (not ELDM) or 180 ELDM are much better bullets all round.

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Yeah circulating theory is that they have an issue with tip falling off during flight leading to penciling.

I ditched them in 6.5 after eperiences with them penciling. Went back to eldms, make a mess but make things dead

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Originally Posted by Stocky

Bc isnt for dialing it for retaining velocity so the bullet works for more distance. It also helps minimise wind deflection. A lower bc but proportionally faster bullet will usually have less drop out a long way.

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You miss my point.... It won't hold up as good as something more aerodynamic but your already dialing from known click values...so however aerodynamic or not so much is a moot point.in theory if it held accuracy at distance you could shoot to a mile with .45/70

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

so however aerodynamic or not so much is a moot point.in theory if it held accuracy at distance you could shoot to a mile with .45/70

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On a large target, in a vacuum with no wind & your lucky undies on :D

How do you know about my lucky undies???? You been spying on me??

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

You miss my point.... It won't hold up as good as something more aerodynamic but your already dialing from known click values...so however aerodynamic or not so much is a moot point.in theory if it held accuracy at distance you could shoot to a mile with .45/70

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Your missing the point sorry Micky. Just because a you know the drop off a bullet at XYZ distance thats moot if the bullets not going fast enough (at impact) to expand at that distance. Bc helps make sure its still going fast enough no one has ever talked about drop or clicks except you.

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Originally Posted by dannyb

What would you say is a better .277 bullet ? I've used them in 270win and wsm with 0 failures from 10 yards to 400+ so if there's a better bullet I'd love to know what it is ? Genuine query as I'll be loading 270win again real soon :cool:

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Lrab

Iv had lots of failures of various weights with eldx all of them now days id say we’re driven to fast I on occasion shot the 150eldx at 2650fps and from the limited amount iv shot with it no failures yet . I do avoid them now days iv also had some excellent kills with them but enough bad to let them go

It's an impossible situation for projectile makers. A bullet that will perform at the longer ranges people expect nowadays... but that will work up close too. Im using 162s in my 280 AI at moderate velocities, but at close bush hunting ranges. I use them because my rifle has been problematic and they are the one that shoots well. But Ive been surprised at how quickly they disintegrate at 20-40 yards and 2700fps. I suspect they will be great at 3 or 400.
I used the 160 accubond for a while and had the opposite experience. Can't win.
@dannyb What distances are you wanting to use your 270 at?