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In an attempt to keep myself sane over the next month I've purchased a 300wsm to add to the stable. Now I get to ponder pills and loads until I can get it.
I'm looking to shoot the heavies a bit slower eg 190 vld, 195tmk , eldm etc. I'm going to be limited by mag length as it's a rem 700 with 23inch bbl.
Is this viable or better to drop down a bit and gain speed. I have some 2209 and superperformance to start with.
*also a tub of 2213sc
Be interested in this too. I use 185vld in mine but wanted to try something else. Not sure about your powder though, might be too fast for heavy projectiles.
Try the Hornady Precision Hunter ammo 200gn ELD-X
Goes pretty good in my rifle and good on steel to 435m so far
I expect @Pommy might chime in with some ideas. He shoots the 208 Eld-M and has just started playing with that super pointy Sierra 200 grain jobbie. He does have a Tikka so shoots them long, but he's an obsessive Quickload nerd who is currently trying to come up with as many ways as possible not to get bored....
I do know he uses unicorn dust aka Re26 in it. And has tried N560 too. Just can't recall if he's used anything more conventional in it.
What is your max overall length that will fit in the mag? What brass are you using?
I'm not sure what over all mag length is yet, I'd say its whatever a rem 700 short action is unless they do a different internal mag for wsms? I'll be ordering brass from gunworks over the next week or so itll be norma. Cant pick the rifle up until all this is over anyhow
2209 would work well I shoot H4350 in mine and its basically the same powder. 200eldx is very accurate.
Go for it
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Mag fed? Out of curiosity what sort of speeds are you gettingQuote:
Originally Posted by dirkvanvuuren
208 ELD-Ms go well in my .300WM at 2980 fps with 2217.
Your little fat bloke should get them above 2800 ����
Whats the barrel twist rate in yours? Am eyeing up a couple locally but still not sure if I want 300 wsm or 7 rem mag.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite
1:10 going off the site. Virtually brand new with 24" barrel and dpt can. Dont think you can go wrong with either cartridge to be honest. I Just didnt have a 30cal in the safeQuote:
Originally Posted by Boar Freak
I run 180 Berger EH with Hybrid 100V at 3040 fps out of mine. The bc on the 180 EH 0.576 is a real plus
300WSM is a bit like 284 in the sense that it's designed to work in a short action but it really comes alive when you can seat the bullets back out towards long action lengths.
With that in mind, I grabbed a 28" 1:9 barrel and had it throated long for the heavies. The factory 24" 1:11 Tikka barrel will also stabilise most 30 cal pills advertised as needing a 1:10, thanks to the extra speed over a 308... Out to 1000m at least.
My load until recently has been a 208 ELD-M, 3.115" OAL, and anywhere where up to around 70gr of RL26, depending on how long I want the brass to last. It'll crack 3000fps.
On that point about brass life... Norma WSM brass is soft as shit and I fuckin wish Lapua would step in and do it properly for them. You'll get ejector stamps the moment you even think about using Norma for a warm load.
Anyway... the longer 1:9 barrel doesn't get me much more speed over the shorter 1:11 because it hits pressure a bit faster, I presume because of the increased twist rate. I tried up to 71gr of 2217 and got 2930fps. I reckon 2213SC would be the best bet if using ADI powder in a 24" barrel but could still seat long, and 2209 if also restricted to SA mag length.
New load is a 200gr SMK's but these want a 1:9 so I wouldn't try them in a 1:11. And no way in hell are you going to get them in a SA mag without the ogive halfway down the case neck. I'm seating them out to 3.200" and they're still much further from the rifling than the ELD's.
I'd find out what mag/throat length will allow you to get away with without eating too far into case capacity, before deciding on projectiles.
Sound advice cheers, it's a 1:10 barrel so should be good for stabilizing but I like to have mag fit ammo. Wondering if the 175tmks or 178eldms are a better option. They will be seated deep being a remington and not a tikka theres no simple bolt stop and mag mod
You can get a Wyatt extended mag box for your 700. I got Gunworks to grind the bolt stop back. I’ve fitted them to my .284 and 7 saum, mag length is 2.990 now from memory.
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Originally Posted by Pommy
Sorry for the hijack.
Have you shot 165 SST-s from your 300 @Pommy ? I was thinking to use 165 SST for longer shots then 130 TTSX in bush out of 24" barrel 1:10 twist. No brake or suppressor. Shooting reds and sika.
I've not shot anything lighter than 180's mate. But I'd probably pick something like the 178 ELD-X rather than have two loads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boar Freak
I load for my nephews 300 WSM which is a Rem 700. COAL for his rifle for mag fit is 74 mm. I load 69 grs of RL 26 with the 200 gr ELD X for a speed of 2957 fps out of the 24 inch barrel. This load is accurate shooting an inch or less at 100 yds depending on the shooter. It is a excellent killing load nothing moves far after a good hit.
That's bloody impressive. Certainly food for thought. I didnt know if anything that big would mag fit so really good to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mooseman
We verified that load at 400 yards, according to the Ballistic chart there would be 17 inches drop and that was what we got so the velocity must be about right. We have also shot this load out to 625 yards on my gong and at 3 liter milk bottles with a good consistency of hits. I don't think I would like to be trying to many shots on animals, it's a long way.
Have you tried Winchester brass Pommy? It's good and hard, and tolerates some warm/hot (over ADI book) loads for my 270WSM. It's borderline too hard though, and I get the odd split neck unless I anneal every 3 firings or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Relatively inexpensive too, which is a bonus.
Grant
@hispeedlodrag, that's really good to know. I've not tried it. Cheers
200gr ELD X with 61.5gr RL17 has it doing 2940fps with my WSM. Wicked projectile. Longest shot so far is 690mtrs on a goat, collapsed in a big heap.
What length barrel mate? That's bloody impressiveQuote:
Originally Posted by 300wsm for life
It's a browning A bolt so I think the are 22inch.
If you are limited in Mag length I would look at running a 178 ELD-X or another 180gr
Im using 178gr seated at mag length in one of my wsms and using 208gr ELD-M seated long in the other.
Hornady manual has a load listed for 178gr and Superformance with a max of 69.6gr and +-3100 FPS
Good to know, will be trying this powder. I have 178 eldms and 175tmks to try at present with superperformance and 2209.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooper
Hey man, I was shooting 208 gr ELD M from Tikka, standard barrel. 2213 powder, Norma brass and mag length, was only doing 2770 FPS but was still punching through deer out at 600 metres. Have gone to shorter barrel with the ELD X 178 gr and reloder 17, shoots easy 1/3 - 1/4 inch at mag length, doing 2840 fps in 20" barrel. Try the Hornady book load, seems to work well in a lot of rifles.
hows those 130 ttsx work on amimals inside 200?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boar Freak
This is a .30 cal 150TTSX @ 300 yds. 3150 fps. They work just fine up close.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
In the vid it looks like I hit it a bit back but I was angling for where I wanted the bullet to go. It went right through it and was lodged in the off shoulder (see the pic).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iovPBtIdvRA
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130ttsx at 400yd, spine shot above the shoulder. Didn’t hit much bone at all.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4343ba9102.jpg
On the left. The one on the right is from a double shoulder shot at 150yds.
Both out of 14.5” .308 at 3023fps
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Bloody hell. What powder are you using? I get ~2900 from a 16" using AR2206H or BM8208.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSL
H335, lots of it
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wow thats cool !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
thats primo !
QUOTE=MSL;989677]130ttsx at 400yd, spine shot above the shoulder. Didn’t hit much bone at all.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4343ba9102.jpg
On the left. The one on the right is from a double shoulder shot at 150yds.
Both out of 14.5” .308 at 3023fps
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In all the years running my 300wsm best powders have been IMR4831 RL17 H4350 with bullets from 150gn right up to 230ATIP 185VLD i have shoot pigs out to 1065yds 200eld-x deer out to 1185yds but when it comes down to it with 300wsm you can cover the hole spectrum of hunting scenario,s from 50yds to 1200yds
Working up to 67.3 2213sc powder behind 208 eldm. 2800fts out of 24 inches tikka barrel.
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Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite
@cameronjackwhite hey mate I've got a handfull of 195 TMK's and 190 Targex projies you can have to try.
PM your address if you want them.
Finally got my new Kimber back from having barrel shortened. So off to the range to sight it back in.
Hornady Precision Hunter 200gn Factory Loads ($104 a bloody box)
The load is hot in my gun but I like it a lot, first shot high and right. Made adjustment and fired 3 for group. I was worried shortening the barrel might have made things go Pooze but not so
And best of all every single fired case extracted with out any issues at all!!!
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If you are looking for a heavy bullet in 300wsm its worth trying the Precision Hunter factory load for sure
Cant really complain with that! Be interesting to know what its spitting them out at.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
will try it Sunday with a Chrony Box gives velocity at 2820fps. Have some 175 TLRs to test too but not sure I will bother may just use factory 200gn load even if only 2600fps should be plenty of ommpfQuote:
Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite
