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I have a 500gr 45/70 cast mould that produces .455" bore projectiles
My 450 bushmaster has the .452" bore
With the lack of copper jacket and gas check is it safe to fire these bullets in my rifle
Will the dies I have squish the .455" bullet the amount it needs to be safely fired?
What Rifle are you firing them from Bill?Are you using smokless or Black powder?
I'm planning on using trail boss
The rifle is a ruger American bolt action
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Get a Lee push through size die and size them down I have sized .459" cast bullets to .452" as long as the cartridge will chamber you are OK
with low velocity loads, lube the bullets before sizing them
I wouldn't use Trail Boss if you are going to shoot subs. In a previous thread in answer to my question another member explained that TB was not made for subsonic loads. The Velocity spread is too great with TB
In 450 bushmaster specifically? It's been great accuracy wise in my 308sQuote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I`m not having any trouble with .459"dia lead bullets in my Sharps, the bore is .458 at the breech, .457" at the muzzle. They are cast H/B bullets and come out of the mould at .461/2" and seams to love them with 38.5grs of 3031 powder, M V is around 1.300 fps. also load with 3f black powder, fun stuff.
Do you make a similar but more suitable projectile for this sort of thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by shooternz
No, Google 450 Bushmaster a see what pops up, Or how about this
http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/images/...AD5_Sketch.Jpg
I size lead 500 grains to .452 for both my 45/70s, being lead, the boot up the bum on take off will bump them up to fit the barrel dia, you can get some stripping by the rifling on the trip down the barrel, a harder lead compound will help stop this. Have a shitload of shot I’m melting down for projectiles, so should go well
Just run them through a sizer you want .453 for a 452 bore
(Rule of thumb 0.001 ovesize)
You will be able to shoot 455 no worries with low pressure trailboss loads
However they may shoot shit and you may lead the crap out of your barrel over size bullets can make for bad leading issues
If you can’t buy a 453 sizer if you were to buy a 223 seating or sizeing die even a stuffed one and get a Engineer to ream the hole to 453
I have a old rusty 311 size die that would work awesome for a a ream job you could have it if you want
I think iv got a 280 die I destroyed trying to get a stuck case out of that may work for the job if I need one to ream out
Thanks for the idea
The 450 bushmaster is designed to shoot standard .45 pistol bullets and has a groove diameter of .451" cast bullets need to be .452" minimum
bullets larger will shoot ok as long as the cartridge will chamber, soft lead not lead the barrel if a good lube is used and velocity is under 1400fps
I size all my .30 cal bullets .310" so that they will work in most .30 cal rifles including 7.62x39, so far I have had no complaints of leading.
Reloaders have the Lee .452" in stock https://www.reloaders.co.nz/ic/94903...zingKit.12.jpg
get one of them and some Lee Alox lube and you should be set.
I spy with my beady eyes a 330grn gould bullet lyman mould for sale on trademe.......hopefully some nice chap from Tokoroa will snap it up and start making them...supposedly the ducks nuts for .45 cal rifles....
Trail boss is awesome for Sub loads in the 450 BM :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I saw that MD, problem is it is a single cavity it would take a long time to make a decent amount of bullets I have used one of Lymans HP moulds beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
gets boring very quickly, I would like it for my mould collection as it is the classic 45/70 deer bullet from the early days of the 45/70,
but in reality there is no need for a HP .45 with the modern bullet designs with the big metplat they smack down animals with authority
And I don't think it would be the best bullet for the 450BM that is designed to shoot pistol bullets, Though there is a mould available for the 450BM
it is a 280 grain gas check, If there is enough interest I will get it.
as soon as my insert gets completed I hope to find out just how good them modern ones are...and the cordless drill with5mm bit does a pretty neat hollow point if its needed...tried half a dozen this moring and got weight of the 413s pretty darn close to the 395s....ho hum I just has to be patient.
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sorry Rob...it just had to be done
Looks cute! You know Zombies are like Santa and the easter bunny just there to frighten kids and Americans, I will probable work but do you need a .459" bullet to expand?
Keep this up and I will put you on my naughty list
LMFAO sorry mate,I saw the soft air pellets and it just had to be done to 3 loads....still waiting semi patiently for inset so have 20 loads made up creeping up in power levels...I figure using them up should see barrel settled and let me know where to go from there.45grns of AR 2208 seemed like good place to stop for now,should be 1450ish fps.
Is that a plastic bb @Micky Duck?
no it is a round 7mm hard puke green ball projectile tip inside and in front of ZOMBIE killing 400ish grain soft lead load for the .45/70 govt, that was located in a plastic contianer of other puke green plastic balls that would be used for airsoft
Attachment 104931 result of said puke green plastip tipped load fired into dirt bank at approx 1500fps...beside it is a undoctored load going slower an unfired slug and a piddly little 50 grn ttsx recovered from Mr piggy the other week.
Viagra was meant to lower blood pressure and treat heart problems - not everything has to be used for what it was originally designed for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
My 44 mag gets about a 25fps ES with Trail Boss and 200gr plated bullets for subs.
paper patch???????perhaps...
I have a mould for the 455 Webley 265 grain HB that cast at .457" they should expand to fit ok,
I am casting some 413gr 459" tomorrow can cast some .455's and run them through the .459" to lube them
you ARE the man.......always happy to help out a fella. good on you Rob.
