Thread: 7 prc Sammi

I will admit, if this came out in a factory chambered Tikka where it goes well with the medium action mag length it would be attractive. So long as they do it justice with full length in the magazine and a long bolt stop.

Originally Posted by stagstalker

I will admit, if this came out in a factory chambered Tikka where it goes well with the medium action mag length it would be attractive. So long as they do it justice with full length in the magazine and a long bolt stop.

even if they do make the mags a little short will be aftermarket ones available not long after or just grind out the block a little

Originally Posted by stagstalker

I will admit, if this came out in a factory chambered Tikka where it goes well with the medium action mag length it would be attractive. So long as they do it justice with full length in the magazine and a long bolt stop.

Yeah, ive just measured up a 7 Saum case and a 7 WSM case, and compared to the 7 PRC print above, the 7 PRC sure does have a case capacity increase over the SAUM and WSM, but at the cost of OAL. However the 7 PRC would be nice if you were wanting to run 180gr + bullets and potentially be a better option than a 7RM in the likes of a T3 where mag length can be an issue with long heavy bullets.

The 7 PRC must have a similar case capacity to the 7 Blaser Mag eh?

The 7 PRC has the same neck length as the 7 SAUM too, which is longer than the 7 WSM

Originally Posted by GWH

Yeah, ive just measured up a 7 Saum case and a 7 WSM case, and compared to the 7 PRC print above, the 7 PRC sure does have a case capacity increase over the SAUM and WSM, but at the cost of OAL. However the 7 PRC would be nice if you were wanting to run 180gr + bullets and potentially be a better option than a 7RM in the likes of a T3 where mag length can be an issue with long heavy bullets.

The 7 PRC must have a similar case capacity to the 7 Blaser Mag eh?

The 7 PRC has the same neck length as the 7 SAUM too, which is longer than the 7 WSM

Its basically a 7-375r that terminator have been making for a long time my old one build on a mag feeding tikka m695 with 180s was running at 3150fps

Originally Posted by stagstalker

I will admit, if this came out in a factory chambered Tikka where it goes well with the medium action mag length it would be attractive. So long as they do it justice with full length in the magazine and a long bolt stop.

And a fast twist!

I’d say so they will come with fast twists to making them viable tikkas will still be to short from factory knowing them plenty of brass options for saum this will get better support than blaser mag unfortunately ultimately resulting in people thinking it’s better

Sweet looking caliber but the saums not going to be replaced. be sweet when lapua start making brass for it. Eventually the saum may get lapua brass the way its being used in f class ect.

Sweet looking caliber but the saums not going to be replaced. be sweet when lapua start making brass for it. Eventually the saum may get lapua brass the way its being used in f class ect.xm might be a little short but would work

Originally Posted by Tim Dicko

Sweet looking caliber but the saums not going to be replaced. be sweet when lapua start making brass for it. Eventually the saum may get lapua brass the way its being used in f class ect.xm might be a little short but would work

Doesn’t need it it has ADG

Originally Posted by Kelton

Doesn’t need it it has ADG

I think lapua is still king of the hill. But adg is tough as.

I know it seems stupid complaining that it's not a SA cartridge as that'd be basically replicating the SAUM but that's what every new popular Hornady cartridge has been.
6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creed, 6.5 PRC, 300 PRC all had exisiting cartridges that performed basically the same, it's just Hornady made a few tweaks to the designs to make them as fit for purpose as possible rather than a design from the 70s that has some short comings.

What the Hornady cartridges bring is availability, be it factory rifles, ammo, brass in decent quanities and backing from the likes of other companies (like Lapua).
The 7SAUM is definitely becoming more popular around the world and you can get brass from a few places now, but the 260rem was still somewhat popular when the 6.5CM came out yet it managed to bring availability to a whole new level.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

I know it seems stupid complaining that it's not a SA cartridge as that'd be basically replicating the SAUM but that's what every new popular Hornady cartridge has been.
6.5 Creedmoor, 6 Creed, 6.5 PRC, 300 PRC all had exisiting cartridges that performed basically the same, it's just Hornady made a few tweaks to the designs to make them as fit for purpose as possible rather than a design from the 70s that has some short comings.

What the Hornady cartridges bring is availability, be it factory rifles, ammo, brass in decent quanities and backing from the likes of other companies (like Lapua).
The 7SAUM is definitely becoming more popular around the world and you can get brass from a few places now, but the 260rem was still somewhat popular when the 6.5CM came out yet it managed to bring availability to a whole new level.

Agree all starts with marketing the 300 prc I liked for the Sammi long heavy’s nothing the others can’t do they just require a custom throat nosler clapped them self at the heels with their Sammi spec it’s superior with a custom reamer but it’s all $$$ compared to a factory
Offering . Marketing and better saami specs have seen these prc cartridges thrive . The 6.5 saum shots the prc but it might as well be a wild cat

The first blue forum started up with many a yarn and much hilarity in 1995

The first model 7 and SF1 sendero in 7saum arrived in NZ in 2002

Since then Forums the world over have declared the 7saum is gaining in popularity

Truth is, it was never unpopular, it just gets “discovered” by each new hunter

The rem brass we coveted was average compared to what we have on offer these days



Harvesting Sika in 2002 with probably the most ideal short action cartridge available, both then and now

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

The first blue forum started up with many a yarn and much hilarity in 1995

The first model 7 and SF1 sendero in 7saum arrived in NZ in 2002

Since then Forums the world over have declared the 7saum is gaining in popularity

Truth is, it was never unpopular, it just gets “discovered” by each new hunter

The rem brass we coveted was average compared to what we have on offer these days
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Harvesting Sika in 2002 with probably the most ideal short action cartridge available, both then and now

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The difference is now its getting popular for target shooters.
It's very popular as an F class cartridge and getting popular as a mid range ELR cartridge in the states.

The 6.5 PRC is getting some ground in the ELR, PRS, NRL games in the US and it's not a huge stretch to see a SA 7mm magnum getting more popular in time.

There are far more hunters in the world than target shooters but the average hunter is lucky to shoot 100 rounds a year where as many competitive shooters will shoot that in a day.
Cartridges can hang around for years for hunters who can have 50 pieces of brass last them the life of their rifle but would never be practical for a competitive shooter.

My comments are all very biased to my point of view based upon what I like from a cartridge and what I look for
#1 I like my cartridges to fit my actions
#2 I like my short actions cartridges short and my long actions long pretty much a rehash on #1
#3 I enjoy a good power/efficiency balance but I’m not opposed to a barrel burning powder eating rip snorter now and then
#4 Optimal twist for chosen weight class
#5 I don’t mind having to change a barrel to achieve all of the above

So given all of the above I prefer the reasons for me

6.5 Saum over 6.5 PRC
7 Blaser mag over 7 PRC
And 300 PRC over the Nosler and Winchester mag

Their we have it one out of three ain’t bad