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    Cast reload question

    Am new to cast reloading. Loaded up a dummy round this morning to try in my 30-30. It cycles ok but the rifling leaves a slight (5mm long) mark on the proj. Its sized seated to the crimping groove, Not hard to chamber or eject. Was planning to use 20-22 grain of IMR3031.

    Is this normal with cast?

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    Do you crimp? I imagine it would be fun if eventually you chamber one and when you try to eject the round without firing it and the projectile stays in the rifling and dumps a bunch of powder through the action

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    Yep, crimped.
    Nothing is tough about having a 70 lb bow and looking like an uncoordinated praying mantis while trying to draw it back.

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    Have a play around with seating depth. Because they are lead they get marked easier compared to jacketed projectiles.

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    If I seat it any deeper I can not crimp in the groove: Name:  IMG_1344.JPG
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    They look to be right lengthwise, if its rifling there will be 6 evenly spaced marks round the bullet. Only one on top is the bullet catching the edge of the chamber as it loads and thats no drama. With that much engraving if its rifling they must be a bitch to chamber.

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    What weight pill and what type of mould?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Henry View Post
    They look to be right lengthwise, if its rifling there will be 6 evenly spaced marks round the bullet. Only one on top is the bullet catching the edge of the chamber as it loads and thats no drama. With that much engraving if its rifling they must be a bitch to chamber.
    Its rifling marks but just kind of rubbing on the prj. Its chambers without any issue. Do you think its ok to shoot it like this?

    Its 150grain, don't know what mold. I bought them ready to load.
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    Don't worry about it the bullet is designed as a bore rider the bullet nose is to long and unsupported so if it didn't ride the bore it would slump when fired, if it chambers without forcing it not a problem
    it will extract just fine, the 30/30 is one of the best cast bullet calibres it can shoot cast bullets to the same velocity as jacketed bullets you should never have to buy expensive jacketed bullets again,
    you can tailor the lead mix to what you require for hunting don't make them to hard 50/50 wheel weights and pure lead is good for up to 1900fps,
    Welcome to the real bullet club
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    What type of crimping die do you have? Are you just using the crimping function in the seating die or do you have a separate crimping die. I use a Lee Factory crimp die which will crimp into cast even if you haven't lined up with the cannelure so I can seat further in and still crimp.

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    @Boar Freak

    Bloody good projectiles those.

    Looks like your all good to go.

    I believe ShooterNZ is correct and these are bore rider projectiles

    Google bore rider projectiles and have a good read.

    Cheers
    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooternz View Post
    Don't worry about it the bullet is designed as a bore rider the bullet nose is to long and unsupported so if it didn't ride the bore it would slump when fired, if it chambers without forcing it not a problem
    it will extract just fine, the 30/30 is one of the best cast bullet calibres it can shoot cast bullets to the same velocity as jacketed bullets you should never have to buy expensive jacketed bullets again,
    you can tailor the lead mix to what you require for hunting don't make them to hard 50/50 wheel weights and pure lead is good for up to 1900fps,
    Welcome to the real bullet club
    Thanks Shooter, do you know what mold makes these projectiles?
    Nothing is tough about having a 70 lb bow and looking like an uncoordinated praying mantis while trying to draw it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What type of crimping die do you have? Are you just using the crimping function in the seating die or do you have a separate crimping die. I use a Lee Factory crimp die which will crimp into cast even if you haven't lined up with the cannelure so I can seat further in and still crimp.
    I use a Lee Classic (am a cheap bastard ) until I use up the sized brass. Just got an RCBS press given by a friend quitting reloading last week so have to track down some dies. Will get one of those factory crimp ones they looked good.
    Nothing is tough about having a 70 lb bow and looking like an uncoordinated praying mantis while trying to draw it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P38 View Post
    @Boar Freak

    Bloody good projectiles those.

    Looks like your all good to go.

    I believe ShooterNZ is correct and these are bore rider projectiles

    Google bore rider projectiles and have a good read.

    Cheers
    Pete
    Thanks Pete, will load up a couple live ones tomorrow and see what happens.
    Nothing is tough about having a 70 lb bow and looking like an uncoordinated praying mantis while trying to draw it back.

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    If it is a bore rider how come the ogive has been engraved by the rifling? I would expect the ogive to be at land diameter and the driving bands at groove diameter.

 

 

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