Intel this arfo. Steves Wholesale expe ting 20tonnes later this month. Likely in retail before xmas.
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Intel this arfo. Steves Wholesale expe ting 20tonnes later this month. Likely in retail before xmas.
Unless another company outbids him on his container. Thats whats been happening to all companies. The shipping companies are causing chaos across the board
Powder or Projectiles?Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
Their website or Facebook page said they are expecting a shipment of ADI powder in early December, dunno if that's what Woody is referring too though.Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
Tried to buy some powder on Tardme the last few days, not at this price though.
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Bet Jacinda's Mongrel Mob mates have a good stock of ammo!
Guncity are expecting a shipment of ADI powder late this month.
my backup for this situation is a rifle I load with ap70, i have enough power for 700 rounds left and i cant find any .44 mag bullets anywhere, but i can cast my own lead bullets too
i think i can do the same with a .303 as well, i should get mold. cheaper than a box of jacketed bullets.
@JohnDuxbury
Last time I was in Hunting and Outdoor supplies in Carterton they had about five boxes of Hornady 240 xtp. This would have been about three - four weeks ago.
its a sad future for a while. prs shooting in the states cant be helping. lots of people doing huge amounts. factory ammunition is obviously selling in large volume as well.
I see some of the popular Hornady projectiles are in stock at Midway and Brownells. ELD M's etc. Might be a sign of supply catching up I dunno.
US forums have been saying components are much more available now and factory ammo coming back down in price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Heres hoping we are seeing the back end of this BS.
Not likelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
We are going to feel the pinch for another 12 months or more
Legitimate firearms users and Hoarders in NZ can easily dry up the next 4 shipments.
And ammo prices will never come down our great big stores like muppet and fisting
and Gunshitty will set the price.
Yup, the projectile section of trademe is both depressing and hilarious. People scrapping over crumbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
If the shipments keep getting delayed then this cou keep dragging on fora long time, but it'd be due to shipping rather than availability.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmsaum
If that happens I'll just be buying stuff from overseas, the US prices are low enough to warrant paying comparatively high shipping prices.
Greetings All,
As a card carrying and Government certified old fudd my needs for hunting ammunition are modest. A quick check of stocks suggests that the need for loading any more in the near future can probably be put of for some time. Ammunition stocks for my limited target shooting is lower but I have kept up stocks of components for these which should suffice.
These shortages will end, perhaps sooner than some of the doomsayers are suggesting. Once this occurs my suggestion to you all is to do some planning on what your needs are for 12 months or so and make sure that component stock do not fall below this point. Some rationalisation may be needed. Try to select two or at the most 3 powders that suit most of your rifles. For me, at the moment, these are AR2206H and AR2209. They might not be the absolute best but very good is still better than nothing at all. Try and have resonable stocks of primers. An understudy load for some of your rifles using earlier type projectiles is worth considering. These are often still available when the whizzo modern projectiles have run out. If these shoot close to your preferred hunting load they can be used when the flashy pills are not needed.
Finally these cyclic shortages are likely to continue, largely due to the fragile state of democracy in the US. I expect the next one early in 2003. Be ready.
Regards Grandpamac.
Back to the future is it @grandpamac? Did you mean 2023?Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
I agree with what you're written.
The prudent shooter plans ahead and builds up sufficient components for their use.
Buggar,Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
Grandpabrain strikes again. Seems to happen mostly with dates. Need to be extra careful with powder.
Grandpamac.
Just another take on this guys. Raw material costs and futures for the likes of copper, lead and bronze have all gone through the roof. Rapid money printing globally has also seen the real value of money drop, but that’s an economics lesson I don’t want to go in for. My best guess is 30% increase in many goods over the next 3-5 years. That’s before any greed or skullduggery. Also it tends to come by boat. Shipping is up to 8 times more expensive than it was 18 months ago!
on that note : from Gunworks FB post
Quote:
ADI powder update - ADI wasn't picked up from the Australian port as planned so its looking more like Jan/Feb next year we will see it
Greetings again,
Was just looking at some of the suppliers websites. Seems to be plenty of .22 and .308 projectiles. Might be best to have some options for these in our gun cupboard, say a .223 and a .308. Both can be loaded with BM 8208 or AR 2206H. Keeps some options open.
Regards Grandpamac.
Have you been looking in my safes?Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
I've got .223, .308 with plenty of projectiles, powder and enough primers - for now.
Also a spare .223 barrel and 4 .308 barrels.
Also a couple of 22LR with a little over of 4000 rounds, and other stuff.
One reason I went with a 22-250
Copied from face book
UPDATE!
Well the good and the bad of it team, trying times and I feel for the team at Steve's Wholesale.
Hang in there team we'll get through this bollocks
Important Shipping Update
Our ADI Gunpowder Container was turned away at the port today and not loaded on the booked sailing. We don't know why just yet but it's now a waiting game for another ship, hopefully in a few weeks' time. Looking like our delivery around NZ will be North Island later in Jan and South Island in Feb 2022..
Some good news is our 40' container of Hornady etc is released and is waiting to be trucked down to WGTN.. hope to be packing orders from Monday onwards. [Note all the USA supplied gunpowders missed this container]
More good news because we need it... Hornady is suppling us a record quantity of goods for a Feb 2022 arrival here... we have now booked 2 x 40' cans to cover the large volume of goods coming including most of our brands and a good amount of USA-made gunpowders except Alliant. There will be plenty of 7mm08, 6.5 ELD-M Match projectiles, 308 American Whitetail, 6.5 PRC in Match ammo, 6.5 Creedmoor, 44 Mag, .22 Magnum, 300WSM, 7mmMag limited, 17HMR limited.
Everyone try and have a Christmas holiday to put 2021 behind us. We will be open most trading days over the holidays.
cheers
Steve
Greetings Cyclops,Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclops
A lot of safes look like ours. The .223 and .308 are pretty hard to ignore unless you are really determined. Plentiful brass and projectiles, can use a broad range of powders and between them use the two most common primers. Plus they will deal with any rifle hunting need in New Zealand. Those two with a .22 RF pretty well do it all and we honestly do not need anything else. Fortunately need has nothing to do with the rifles we buy and enjoy.
Regards Grandpamac.
Agree @grandpamac
Which is why next to the 7mm's
I have a 222 a .303(well lots of them tbh) and .577 and 450/577cal....and just in case 9.3mm...lol
Variety is the spice of life
And you never know when the need may arise
I heard a story that Alliant won't load containers with other powder manufacturers' goods.
Yay 6.5 ammo.
Latest update from ADI...
Propellant Update
Dear Sporting Shooters,
It has been quite some time since our last propellant update.
We would like to assure you, the factory continues to run at maximum capacity, 24 hours a day, 5 days a week, and we’re supplying as much propellant to the market as possible. Any difficulty in accessing our propellants is due to unprecedented demand and not a reduction in manufacturing or supply to the Australian market.
Below is an update on our propellants and the popularity/frequency of manufacture for each.
AR2208, AR2209 – These propellants will be available in both 1kg and 4kg bottles for the foreseeable future and we have these propellants represented through the different stages of manufacture almost constantly.
AR2206(H), AR2213SC, AR2217 – Is typically made multiple times a year. AR2206(H) will be available in both 1kg and 4kg bottles, while AR2213SC and AR2217 will be available in 1kg
AR2225, AR2218 – Our two slowest burning propellants represent only a small amount of the propellant we release to the market every year. Stocks of AR2218 in 4kg and AR2225 in 1kg should last for some time and we plan on packing some AR2218 in 1kg later in 2022.
To read more about our propellant update please visit our ADI World Class website.
ADI are no longer making pistol and shotgun powder APS for the foreseeable future ,thats a bloody shame.
Full update -
Attachment 186091
And their communication on APS from March 2021
Attachment 186092
Doh! I was tinkering with aps as a replacement for trailboss, thinking it would be around longer. What a shame.
Steve's Wholesale but I don't think they've ever bought any in.Quote:
Originally Posted by small_caliber
Quoted from a conversation between a mate and someone through facebook:
“Managed to pick up 400 162s this morning from various shops around the country, just about triple my money on selling in a weeks time”
That might not be the genuine intent of the individual and they could simply just be pointing out “if I wanted too”. I have no doubt people are doing this though… just the thought of it pisses me off
Only one word "Wanker"Quote:
Originally Posted by stagstalker
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Everyone's doing it with houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by 25 /08 IMP
wanker.......s ........Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
And that is the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman
Greetings All,Quote:
Originally Posted by zimmer
Was interested to see that ADI seem to have gone from 500 gram bottles to 1 kg bottles. BM 8208 I got recently was in a 1 kg bottle. It will certainly help keeping up with lot numbers but someone using a .222 is going to take a long time to get to the bottom of a 1 kg pot.
GPM.
