frangible .270

In an earlier post , i spoke about helping a mate with some reloading for his 270 . Now I am looking for a recommendation of a 270 pill that would be recognised as of a frangible design . He,s not one for believing that a single hole is better than two . So, his perfect round causes a hole , partially breaks up some what , bits of the projectile cause more damage and best of all sometimes causes bleeding out boths sides of the animal , killing it really quickly .
So he is after a frangible projectile ( i think ? ) cause this sounds like something Nathan Foster has described in terminal research discussions .
what are people thinking as to what maker of 270 projectiles has a frangible design ?
cheers
les

speer spbt definitely in the softest bracket....
the 145grn eld m is a SST with slimmed down design so is almost there...
you cannot go wrong with a NBT is 130grn...just take out the front wheels....
infact that is pretty much the trick to getting best out of a .270w in my opinion...take out the front wheels and the animal will drop very quickly.
for small light animals when meat recovery isnt priority the 110grn hornady HP is devistating but will not penertrate ,it will blow up on surface of anything solid,awesome on wallabies and leaves a hole similar in size n shape to a 1litre coke bottle.... very very messy DO NOT use this on deer sized game unless close and can gaurantee a headshot and be prepared to follow up.

the new deer season round looks to be a very fast expanding design...... worth a crack if want factory fodder.

130sst

My thoughts of using a frangible type bullet wouldn’t end well.
The bullet will blow up on contact, much like it is designed to do.
Animal runs off maimed to die, your mate goes home pissed off & hungry

its all about picking your shots,and picking correct projectile type for target species.... no different to any other calibre yet the humble .270w gets a bad rep for ruining meat one week as bullets have blown up,then fella goes to a harder projectile and gets bad rep again as he didnt hit bone and it zips right through leaving pinhole wounding....

thanks for that . Some great info there . Is NBT, Nosler boat tail in 130 gr
cheers
les

Sierra 130s.
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For many years I used Winny Powerpoints driven fast as a first pick for deer and pigs, but I have found that Accubonds are much better. They open fast but being bonded hold together and pass right through. Animals dont go far with air blowing in one side and out the other. A lot of times the animal will move after the shot but will be easily found with a lot of gravy to follow. Animals are never lost, even with a poorly placed shot, a hit is confirmed by a good amount of blood at the impact site and meat damage is minimal - measured at about 3-4 litres with a 270. SSt projectiles will give you 10 ltrs of bruised trim and more lost animals. If venison is valued at $10 kg, a soft pill is costing you $60 in lost meat.
Relative to everything else quality bullets are cheap and well worth the extra $0.60 more than a non- bonded job no matter which way the numbers get spun

I agree with @MoaHunter on the effectiveness of the Accubonds. I have used the 130gr exclusively in my 270 for the last 12 odd years and they have always performed (Shots range from 15-350yds). Animals almost always drop on the spot with a shot through the front wheels/engine room, and the couple that haven’t only take a step or two before dropping. The shoot bloody accurate through my rifle too, which helps (using AR 2209)

Another one I have used a bit is the 130gr Gamekings. They are another reliable performer and typically easy to get to shoot accurate, and would be by replacement to the ABs if I run out of stock of them.

Would also recommend against the 130gr SST, they make a mess of meat and not suited to shorter range shots from my experience


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+1 for the SST making a mess

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Originally Posted by LJPRMC

thanks for that . Some great info there . Is NBT, Nosler boat tail in 130 gr
cheers
les

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indeed it is...Ive shot many animals with them over the years and never found them lacking at all. take out them front wheels and your freezer will stay full.

the 150grn powerpoints on other hand.........very tidy on deer indeed,nice blood trail and not huge amount of mess....good for a factory option for bush hunting or sub 200 yard deer....

What about the old standby 130gr partitions?
Like and accubond but different a d not as accurate?

nobody has ever said they not accurate,or do not kill stuff very very well...pricey yes...not the most slippery high BC design yes.....but they just plain old work,wel lthe 150grn ones surely do,in spades.

Hornady make a 110gr vmax for .277.

I have a mate that has shot more deer than I have had hot meals, he swears by them for fallow (He only neck shoots though).

+1 for the Sierra 130gn SPBT. Apart from a mixed batch of factory ammo in the early days, had a mate load up a hundred of the aforementioned and never looked back. I’m a neck shooter generally, apart from a handful of reds shot in the bread basket and they pretty much just fell over or never walked more than 10-15mts.
Just seem to do the job with minimal fuss in most situations close or far.

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Hornady make a 110gr vmax for .277.

I have a mate that has shot more deer than I have had hot meals, he swears by them for fallow (He only neck shoots though).

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and that right there is the thing......same deal with 130grn hp speers in .308 awesome on goats and great for head or neck shooting reds at full speed (why the helicopter shooters love them) but not so flash if chest shooting bigger deer or indeed a boar..... head neck shot = partial decapitation or a near miss of bone will still shock the hell out of brain/neck and concuss animal the massive trauma to veins/artleries mean they will NORMALLY bleed out before coming around.... same projectiles in shoulder can fail to get into chest cavity...... picking shots and /or matching projectiles to task at hand= clean kills,and that is what we should all be aiming for.

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nobody has ever said they not accurate,or do not kill stuff very very well...pricey yes...not the most slippery high BC design yes.....but they just plain old work,wel lthe 150grn ones surely do,in spades.

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@Micky Duck not so much they are inaccurate, just meant to be less so than an accubond.
In the 264 win mag literature the 140gr partition is meant to do very well.
Terminal results from accubonds and partitions of similar weights for calibre are meant to be very much the same

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Originally Posted by LJPRMC

thanks for that . Some great info there . Is NBT, Nosler boat tail in 130 gr
cheers
les

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I thought it meant Nosler Ballistic Tip

I would move up to 140 or 150gr with more tangible bullets in 270W. Gameking, speer btsp or bergers for a flash one.
Std cup and core 130gr work well. Interlocks, hotcors or accubond for a flash one.
I'm using 130gr interlocks in a 19inch 270 to good effect.

@Longrun what powder you stoking them up with?

W760. There are prolly better powders though I have a bit of this. Starting to ration shooting though now...waiting for the powder boat to come in.

Hornady 145 gr ELDX good for long range, fast opening but will get the job done, most cup and core type projectiles in the 130 to 150 gr will work well in the 270 win.

130 vld