As @mickyDuck said, no point going heavier. 151hp expand a little, but generally punch through, there are some photos somewhere on the forum. If you are going for deer dont much around and use lehighs 168 CF. They are like little grenades. Many dont use as they have 'slow' twist rate barrels . You need 1:8 for lehighs. There have been some who run a large projectile and use the tumbling. I dont think you could do this with 1:8".
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