ok fair enough.....maybe TRY what I suggested.....place one of the ornx in base and put seating die in,screw stem out a fair ol way....drop ram handle to bottom and start screwing stem down watching it like a hawk...when it starts to "quiver like your old fella when pretty girl walks by"....stop screwing it down.... then try one of your reloads in dies set up as it is......it will either be shorter,longer or bang on....any which way it gives you somewhere to start...Ive loaded this way for 30 years.
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