Thread: Low recoil 7mm SAUM load?

Theirs a fair amount of technique to shooting that stock to mate I’m unsure how you shoot but I found with advice from another mate with the same stock again a lightweight saum that holding the foreend for dear life with the lead hand helps a lot both in shooting more accurately and felt recoil while a lot of people probably shoot holding the foreend I never did and that change in technique that’s now habit helped a lot. I think the 140 game king would likely be a very good choice I shot 150 lrab and 150eldx threw my new barrel last week just to get the round count up and their was a decent reduction in recoil from the 160-180s I fired the same day

Sierra do a 140 and a 150 tipped gameking oddly website says both have a bc of .545 you should be able to get them moving out of a saum.

I have some 165 TGK get 2800 from memory from a 20” barrel they shoot well. A big projectile looks the same size as a 180 elbm when placed side by side. Thicker copper jacket I reckon.

The 120nbt going 2500fps mv hammers out at 400.
This was in a 708

Why not load the .308 with 140gr or even 130gr? Do the same job I would have thought, and probably easier than downloading the SAUM? I dunno, I just don't see the point of having a short mag then hobbling it.

Your right it would do the same thing but that means carrying two rifles on a longer range hunt when i could just back the load off in the SAUM and have two loads for the same rifle (assuming they shoot a similar poi.) If a shot presents itself at 600 in goes the 162 if it's closer and the wife is shooting in goes the 140grn round.

Originally Posted by No.3

Why not load the .308 with 140gr or even 130gr? Do the same job I would have thought, and probably easier than downloading the SAUM? I dunno, I just don't see the point of having a short mag then hobbling it.

Yeah, that makes more sense. You'll need to have a play and see if you can get the two loads to shoot to point of aim - I'd suggest finding someone with quickload or the Gordons tool, and seeing if you can get a combo of pills and powder that will have a similar trajectory. It would be really nice to be able to do it with one powder and setting the load amount and having everything just... work, but I suspect your mileage will vary from that! POI will be a headache I'd bet.

Originally Posted by No.3

Yeah, that makes more sense. You'll need to have a play and see if you can get the two loads to shoot to point of aim - I'd suggest finding someone with quickload or the Gordons tool, and seeing if you can get a combo of pills and powder that will have a similar trajectory. It would be really nice to be able to do it with one powder and setting the load amount and having everything just... work, but I suspect your mileage will vary from that! POI will be a headache I'd bet.

Thanks il have a look into that Gordon's tool. I found that my old rem mag did it well. It shot 150 grain corelokts into the bullseye and 162 reloads 1.5 inches higher so worked out real well. Hopefully this is similar

Greetings,
Going to a lighter pill and a lighter charge of faster powder might be worth considering. Both will lower recoil.
GPM.

You can go below the recommended start loads

Try
154gr sp ar2209 50gr for about 2750fps

You can go as low as 75% of capacity. IIRC So down to abt 45gr

You can go below the recommended start loads

Try
154gr sp ar2209 50gr for about 2750fps

You can go as low as 75% of capacity. So down to abt 45gr

Greetings,
Hodgdon published reduced loads for the 7mm SAUM and H4895 (AR2206H) using 39.5 grains with the 120 and 130 grain projectiles. These produced 2,595 fps at 31,000 PSI and 2,500 fps at32,200 PSI respectively. I would not reduce any other powder below published start load data in the 7mm SAUM case, especially the slower powders.
GPM.

Originally Posted by Nick.m

With consideration I am still thinking of selling my 260rem to contribute towards more toys (thermal).

It's been a great rifle with low recoil which has been great for the wife. The reality is that I have my 308 for the bush work and 7mm SAUM for open country so the 260 probably won't get used if i keep it, so looking for ideas on a low recoil load for the 7mm, shooting will be under 400 probably less.

Any ideas? Thinking the likes of a 140grn Ballistic tip.

Cheers

Make the rifle heavier.

Bolt it into a properly designed chassis like a KRG, your felt recoil will decrease. Don't listen to the hold the forend and use a shooting sling crowd. It's 2025 not 1906.

Otherwise it's like trying to make a V8 more fuel efficient and lower emissions. Even if you achieve your goal, you ruin what made it good to start with.


Don't bother.

Perhaps the easiest solution is to keep the .260 as your wife likes it.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Make the rifle heavier.

Don't listen to the hold the forend and use a shooting sling crowd. It's 2025 not 1906.. Even if you achieve your goal, you ruin what made it good to start with.


Don't bother.

Interesting......advice for a rifle that more than likely was CHOSEN as lighter carry rifle to begin with.... Your "conclusion" goes both ways.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

Interesting......advice for a rifle that more than likely was CHOSEN as lighter carry rifle to begin with.... Your "conclusion" goes both ways.

Let's buy a rifle chambered in a magnum cartridge and make it as light as possible, why is it so hard to shoot well?