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Sorry if this has been covered previous I missed it
https://www.police.govt.nz/advice/fi...ssess-firearms
The way I read this now we need a permit to import any part of a firearm, not just restricted fire arms, so this would include springs, rings, iron sights etc.
Is that correct ?
Is there a cost to obtaining an import permit? I'm thinking they are going to be overwhelmed soon and there will suddenly be a shortage of parts etc.
Sorry put this in the wrong area but don't know how to move it, please do if you know how.
Yep anything that goes on a firearm needs an import permit, probably even slings.
Yes, I do not think it is a new requirement. See the Arms Act 9183 Section 16 - any part of a firearm requires a permit to import.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusl
You need to fill out form POL67B (https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...mit-import.pdf)
Once completed, send it to Permitfirearms@police.govt.nz and they will help you.
I went through this process a few weeks ago for a new scope and dovetail adaptors I brought in. Had the permit in less than a week. Had no issues through customs.
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I have imported triggers and small parts over the years and never had issues without one but I guess this is the new norm, @janleroux was there any cost for permit?
Not quite correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by janleroux
Emphasis mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arms Act 1983
LEGALLY only the action needs a permit, unless it's a pistol, mssa or restricted airgun.
Not to say Police don't arbitrarily make their own interpretations until challenged, nor that you being legally right will stop them/ customs from seizing your shit and you having to fight it in court. But that's the "letter of the law", such as it is.
Looking further into this, the Arms (Prohibited Firearms, Magazines, and Parts) Amendment Act 2019 ammends the Arms Act 1983.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusl
And where normally Acts come into force 12 months after being written, or receiving "royal assent" it seems this act was assented on 11 April 2019.
Smells like an abuse of process, or some outright bullshit has gone down.
No cost - single form to fill in and email to them. Once approved I got an email copy straight away and the original via the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by rusl
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I can not disagree - the answer I gave is the one I got in so many words directly from one of the Administrators in the Arms Act Service Delivery Group.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms
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In case you might be confused (understandably) nearly anything that has anything to do with or might have sometime in the past or future may/will be stopped by customs & you will be asked for an import permit.....
This firearms part for instance.....
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No I'm not kidding..... I should/might get the import permit for it this week, maybe.....
Also got to notify in writing of your import. I enquired to clarify wether all parts imported required notification and this is the response I gotQuote:
Originally Posted by janleroux
"You need to inform your Arms Officer or the Arms Act Service Delivery Group at armsofficerpnhq@police.govt.nz of all firearms and/or parts imported, the permit they were imported on, and the information indicated on the letter you received with your permit."
This information included copies of customs signed permit and shipping invoice. Looks like they are making extra work for themselves and doubling up on customs signing items off.
Not a big deal just scan and email the required documents.
Worst part of importing at the moment is the backlog at customs (currently about 4 weeks) and wether NZ Post will deliver once released from customs (they told me no, I have to pick up or sort out some other freight provider).
Surely NZ Post should cart the goods to you assuming you have had to pay for the goods to be delivered to youQuote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
The bit I find interesting is NZ Post haven't contacted me re delivery of my goods, they know where I am, its on the delivery address, wouldn't be too hard to inform me what the story is...surely
If they won't cart them they should at least get someone else to get them to me at their cost.....
When I emailed the Customs AO at the International Mail centre about sending my permits up I got an automated email response saying NZ Post no longer deliver packages containing firearms/firearms parts (and all firearm parts now require and import permit) and to contact an 0800 number. Rang them and they confirmed they wouldn't deliver my packages as firearms/parts/airguns are all prohibited goods and can't be shipped by NZ Post, but I could pick up or arrange for a courier to pick up. Items in question were 5 round mags and a 2 round shotgun mag extension.
That was a month ago. Last Friday I finally got an actual reply to my email from the AO saying they had found one of my packages and to send up all the permits so they have them on file when they find the other packages (which all arrived in country on the same flight). So I guess we will see if they will deliver.
It's certainly a case of the right hand not knowing what the left is doing. This was the reply I got from Customs when I inquired whether a permit was needed for a scope.....
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My question on whether I need a permit to import a scope:Quote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
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The answer I got back:
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Hmmm, I have a problem I don't have any customs signed permit etc as the parts I ordered came through customs without being stopped (they were correctly described on the package) and arrived at my place before the import permit was even issued...Quote:
Originally Posted by NZShoota
If anyone needs a DIP Tikka T1x rail or DIP bolt handle for a Sako Quad (which fits a T1x) I could import them now to use my permit...
I can confirm you need a import permit to import a PTG 30 MOA Picatinny rail for a Remington 700 - I just went through this process in case I couldn't get one locally.
Took a week to get from Auckland Central - dropped off copy of license sent through to AO. Then another week to get confirmation from the service centre in Palmy north via email and physical permit arrived 2 days later in mail in full NZ police envelope regalia and supporting documentation.
This seems to be the new norm now guys.. Guess we'd better embrace the process eh..
Cheers
Thats ok. Email and say it came through without being stopped. Thats what I did with an order. We are honest law abiding licenced firearms owners after all. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Claw
Got the email this morning saying the import permit for my tripod had been approved & was in the mail.
I got a response today saying a ww2 sling for my k98 needed a permit but the cleaning rod doesn't as it doesn't fit to the rifle....... Little do they know :( it's all madness a 80 year old piece of leather is lethal in the wrong hands
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A nice long steel cleaning rod?...........They have yet to meet Lance Corporal Jones.............Quote:
Originally Posted by nzfubz
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It's bizzar I'll give them that, the tripod thing really?
I had a red dot come in a few weeks back no worries didn't even think to look up about it.
Personally I would prefer to support local, it's just ushally the bits I want are not able to be sourced locally and the shops don't seam to want to get in little weird bits for me. Hopefully we may get better dealer support here and them carrying more stock if they have to do import orders every time they want somthing. Probably not though.
I might order 10, 000 stock screws. And fill out a form for each of them...
the import permit form doesn't really have options for fields to fill out for a scope. Quite stupid.
FYI
I have just been advised that my 5 approved permits ( 3 lines of items in each ) have been posted to me today.
It took 25 days from application to posting them out.
So you need to allow at least a month for these to get through the system.
As a side note they declined one of the permit applications because " chamber reamers are not a firearm part " and therefore do not require a permit.
This after being advised that "specialised items involved in the manufacture of firearms required a permit to import"
Mine haven't taken over 14 days so far (and that included processing thru my local cop shop) so obviously some inconsistancy with the system.
Had kick back on a scope - plain garden type. I hadn't filled in the reason why I wished to import a prohibited part section???
And the one of mine that didn't get processed was "refused" not "declined". Cop speak I suppose for declined.
Carazy.
Well i will know for next time.
Hope they get a new fit for task form soon
Although it might be left as is as a disincentive
Bonkers!Quote:
Originally Posted by nzfubz
I could understand an import permit being required for an integral part of a firearm, but a leather sling (and Greg’s tripod)? WTF is going on?
Its all carefully designed to make it so hard to get all your duck in a row.........................you simply get tired of trying and just give the hobby away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spitfire
Just like if you have to hand in something not on the list, PLOD makes you pay $120+gst, asks for a whole lot of proof and then may request you have it valued by one of his approved valuers at your cost.
What a major clusterfuck, it seems no one knows and everyone is just guessing.
As a result I have just emailed them to ask if a permit is required just to import a trigger lock. Lets see!!
Ive just filled in my twenty fifth Unique Prohibited Item Supplementary Form and still not finished.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikee
I also cant get any 2209 powder.
