Thread: Reality!

Originally Posted by Tentman

Watched the clip. A wee bit "click baity" for my liking, sorta over simplified. I don't recall my longest shot on game but I know I've passed up several memorable animals at 360M and less. I do shoot a lot at 500 and 600 on the range, and see a lot of shots taken by hunting rifles at those ranges.

Generally with modern rifles and rangefinders a hit on 10" at these 500/600 ranges should be well above 75%, and maybe 90 ish. But that's reliant on several factors, the precision of the zero being a huge one. Next I reckon is shooter discipline and practise, too many long range hunters lack the discipline to get everything in their favour to take a shot . . . My favorite bug bear I see every range session is natural point of aim, cripes if guys are not getting this right on a nice grassy level mound, they haven't a hope on the hill with its complexities - get this wrong and even 200 is a long shot. Finally environmental factors, mainly wind, are much more difficult when shooting over gullies etc.

My point is that to shoot ethically at game at these ranges requires a lot more thinking and practise in addition to just investment in gear and skiting about 100M 3 shot groups.

Overall it's good to see this being talked about, even if it's a bit late. Part of the problem is we have seen a decade or more of promoting LR for a number of reasons, with little to no recognition of the downsides, difficulties or limits.

I mean take the simple info that a truely 1moa capable rifle under perfect conditions has used up over half its impact diameter on a 10 inch disk at 500. And as we are seeing, there are few true moa rifles about. A 1.5 moa rifle has only 2.5 inches of leeway at that range.

And I suspect that many would not consider 500 LR.

The original "Green Lungs" video from early proponents of LR was a very stark warning to me. Yet it was ignored largely.