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here she is in all its simplistic glory
copied from an old old mountain safety manual....might have been pinched from elsewhere for that.
its not PERFECT.....but within reason it just works...pretty much any semi pointy projectile going 2700-3000fps ish just happens to work using this formula
bush hobbits like myself might prefer a 1-2" high at hundy zero.... but this just works
And back this up with a copy of Matt and Bruce Grant's "The Sharp Shooter" - what all we baby boomers learned from. It's a gem!
Yup; always sighted the old three-oh and 270 in for 3" at a hundred! :) I think I learnt it from Rex Forrester's "Hunting in NZ" book. I read and re-read that book nightly! It cost me a princely $5 back in about 1979. A lot of money on an apprentice butchers wage of $48 a week gross.... My mum went nuts when she learnt how much it cost.... Not as nuts as she went about a year later when I bought a new Ruger M77 270 for $434 and paid it off weekly....
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Two months wages for a hunting rifle ,thats steep manQuote:
Originally Posted by bumblefoot
Us boomers had it easy apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by muka88
That was what I used in my old Sako Finnbear 270 with 150 grain Hornady flat base bullets 55 grains of H4831sc guessed speed of 2800 fps from the reloading book, once you couldnt see legs of deer it was 400 yards plus so you got closer.
I was saying to a mate the other day how inexpensive rifles are now. My first centrefire was an 8x57 WW2 Mauser. Cost me $70. When I bought the Ruger I paid a deposit (probably about $50), took it home from Sutherland Sports in New Plymouth, and every Friday night went up to NP to make another payment on it. The receipts all stapled in a little cardboard book each time. I don't think that would happen today ha ha ;) That would have been about 1982 when I bought the Ruger.Quote:
Originally Posted by muka88
And it works at most hunting ranges.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
works at most ranges if you are a chest shooting/hilar area type of person.....the whole 8" kill zone thing goes over head of some folk,the best way Ive heard it describes is a bit like this...
the vital kill zone of a deer is a bit bigger than 8" round...think soccer ball
you have an imaginary drain pipe between yourself and the deers vitals...that pipe is 8 1/2" in diameter.........
the absolute most range you can shoot a deer through that pipe is the range you can sight rifle in so projectile doesnt hit the top of pipe along the way.....
now thinking along those lines look back at the chart....
Greetings All,
What a blast from the past. It's hardly surprising that we boomers regard, with some amusement, the younger generations sighting in dead on at 100 and dialing for everything beyond that. Gary Joll in his 1968 book gives drops for a 200 yard zero for a range of cartridges then in use. My copy cost $3.00 shortly after it was published. My first centre fire rifle was a Parker Hale converted no 1 Lee Enfield with a new barrel which cost $29.50 about 1968. The first new rifle was a Remington 700 ADL in .308 W that cost $243.00 in about 1976. A few years earlier we had bought our first house for $9,000.00. The .308 is still here but the .303 and house were sold years ago.
Regards Grandpamac.
Gary Joll's "Big Game Hunting in NZ" book was the next one I bought after Rex Forrester's!
I remember seeing 303 Jungle carbines listed from a surplus store in the back of one of dad's monthly farming mags. Probably about 1978-ish. They were new and $26 each.... They also listed WW2 Brit army packages with gas mask, helmet etc all included. Also ex-Vietnam war US Army Alice-packs. They cost $22 and I was trying to save for one by possum trapping on the farm. Never saved enough for it......Quote:
Originally Posted by grandpamac
By the time I bought my Ruger M77 in 1990 they were down to 4 weeks wages (Paid $900 second hand and was earning $225 per week... with 3 hours OT each week) Sold it to my brother a few years later to pay for a house when I got married, then he sold it back to me last year....Quote:
Originally Posted by muka88
My Finnwolf cost me $240 back in 1973.
Had saved to buy a BAR but by the time I had the $$ saved it was sold so the Finnwolf was next choice ( being a ‘lefty’)
Slightly off thread, but we boomers had it easy..I recall going into my local police station in school uniform in about 1963 and telling the cop at the desk I wanted a permit to buy a .22 rifle ( no FAL required in those days!). He grunted "whaddya want it for, sonny?" "Shooting rabbits" says I, a quaver in my voice..and he wrote out and handed me the permit!
Yep, a permit to procure. Then once bought you had to take the rifle back to the cop shop to get registered. Shotguns didn't need to be registered from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger 888
And a ‘permit to procure’ lasted for a month ( from memory) and you needed one to borrow a rifle (also from memory)Quote:
Originally Posted by 10-Ring
I remember going and getting a permit to purcure shotgun with Dad...Ive still got the shottie some 40ish years later....
I got a permit to procure once and went into register rifle and was told I was over the month.
But the lazy bugger let me go when I said please give me another permit to procure and he couldn't be bothered writing another.
Tokoroa it was.
I use a similar system with my bush rifle 200 yard zero, aim for the shoulder if i cant see the deer properly on 3.5 power i get closer.
