well I will stick an oar in here...the dirty 30 will shit all over a .357 or a 7.62x39 the numbers dont lie (unlike pilicktitions) put a good soft 170grn projectile in the dirty 30 and deer are in big trouble...the x39mm is a good wee cartridge but it wont ever catchup to dirty30 in energy or killing power as it just cant pussh same weight to same speed.... the 357 suffers same fate but worse
Im not saying the 357 is crap....buts its no 30/30 no matter hoe hard you try
thats like saying the .44 mag is in same camp as .45/70
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