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Hi, Anyone know where I can buy a Geissele 2 stage Hi Speed match trigger? Model I'm after is 05-127. I can order one through Brownells but can't get the paper work sorted as I don't know what is required.
Anyone Ordered in I TAR items and able to Help??? Would love to but one from NZAR15.com but they don't import this model.
Cheers V Man.
DSP-83, End User Statement, Purchase order and a certified copy of your import permit.Quote:
I can order one through Brownells but can't get the paper work sorted as I don't know what is required
DSP-83
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/Mi...P83form930.pdf
Fill out sections 3, 4, 5 and 7. Leave the rest blank.
End user statement
http://www.brownells.com/UserDocs/
For 'End Use' write, 'These parts will be used by myself for personal use in (insert activity) within New Zealand', or something to this effect.
Purchase Order
From End user:
(your name/address)
(date)
To Suppler:
Brownells Inc.
200 South Front Street
Montezuma, IA 50171-9989
USA
Order requested:
Rifle Part.:
Manufacturer:
Quantity:
Unit Price:
(signed)
Your Name
Paste it into a word document, fill in your info and print.
Get your AO to photocopy your permit, write 'certified copy' and sign it.
Post the 4 documents to:
Brownells
International Licensing Department
Attn: Sandy
200 S Front St
Montezuma, IA 50171
USA
Awesome. Cheers Banana will give it a go.
Thanks V Man
Hi Banana,
Sorry but can you help once again?
Get your AO to photocopy your permit, write 'certified copy' and sign it.
What or who is AO and where do I get a Permit from?
Please advise.
Thank You for your help. It is very much appreciated.
Cheers
V Man
AO is your local Arms Officer at the police station
Thanks Keltic_Kiwi,
I spoke to my local Arms Offficer who told me that I didn't need a permit for the trigger. Question now is where do I get said permit? Do I ask him for one anyway?
Can you please advise if you know or can help.
Cheers
V Man
Ask him for one anyway.
You need the permit from your AO - Customs will NOT let a trigger through without it.
Its free, costs you little time, and often a chat with your AO really pays off :)
Cheers Gerbs,
Hey a big thanks to all you guys for your help.
Awesum
V Man
Some AOs will not issue a permit for something which does not require one, which is actually the NZ Police Policy.
There is no provision for Police to issue a permit to import for components of firearms, other than those that fall within the definition of ‘part’ above.
http://www.police.govt.nz/sites/defa...f-firearms.pdf
If you can get one, great, but you do not need one.
NZ Customs WILL let a trigger through for an A category firearm, because there is no law which allows them to withhold it.
Every time I've had Ruger 10/22 triggers - from complete assemblies through to just a Volquartsen hammer - come into the country, they've been held by NZ Customs and a permit required for release.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koshogi
EVERY TIME.
Because it could be for an E cat 10/22. Confirm that it's for an A cat and they'll release it without a permit.
First, I'd ask digit? if he will. I'd suggest that no small importer here is going to hold comprehensive stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by V Man
Otherwise so the paper work is pretty easy once you are shown how.
I have all this done recently myself and banana for one also has done it lots by the look of it.
I will post my paperwork as an example later as its in work, to set you off if you want to deal with Brownells, let me know.
I would suggest 2 more things,Quote:
Originally Posted by Banana
a) Sign and DATE the purchase order. Sandy sent my purchase order back as while I had signed the covering letter I had not signed AND dated the purchase order and the state dept f**kwit rejected it. Anyway my spikes BCG was paid for and shipped yesterday yeah!
b) Ring/email your AO and just let him/her know you are doing this, just in case you get an awkard asshole in NZ Customs. Shouldn't happen for a trigger but Ive had to deal with some real assholes in Customs over the years who frankly are clueless, arrogant, ignorant pricks who have huge power to do as they please and weild it. I also think its good to build a relationship with your AO, keeping on his good side is worth the 5min call/email IMHO.
Not being picky - but the original question we're talking about is an AR15 trigger!Quote:
Originally Posted by Banana
These days with the media clamoring and the overseas school shootings, and the AOS being called out if there is even a remote chance of a firearm being within 50km of an event.......
Cover your ass. Save yourself the grief, get a permit for anything you import.
NZ Customs (generally) are numptys.
Brownells sent me a new export form its much easier to fill in. Plus the sample letter and purchase order I used. I'd upload them, at least I would if they wernt blocked by this site :(
pm me with your email and I'll send them to you if you want.
If the AO will issue one, I asked about one for the lower Im bringing in and Wellington's AO said no yoou dont need one. However he may now be caving in on that which worries me, I'll try and see him today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbs
BTW the trigger isnt a select fire trigger and the USA dont care about exporting it as a part, but its over $100US so export permit is needed.
From brownells, "Regulated items would be barrels, barrel liners, actions, receivers, frames and cylinders. Also brass/bullets.
Triggers are gun component parts, they are not regulated."
Sample letter and purcahse order,
======
NoX xxxx Road
suburb
Wellington
New Zealand
Post code xxxx
Telephone number 0064 4 xxxxx
<date> 2014
To whom it may concern.
Dear Sir/Madam,
With reference to an import permit for gun parts from the USA.
I talked to and confirmed with the New Zealand Police and they state that because I wish to import only Category A type firearm parts and already hold a Category A firearms licence to use these types of firearms, I do not require, and they will not issue an import permit to New Zealand for the parts listed in the purchase order.
In addition please note that,
a) Any category A firearm parts should have no problems passing through New Zealand Customs.
b) These parts will be for my personal use only in competition use, practice or testing for such events.
c) As per USA form DSP-83 10-2005 no part will be exported out of New Zealand.
d) I am the end user.
Yours faithfully,
Steven xxxxxxxxx
New Zealand Fire Arms licence Number T5xxxxxx
Purchase order – xxxx201x-00x
Brownells Account number 15xxxxxxxxx
Please supply
One –
Brownells part number USD
Signed:-
Date :- 21st October 2014
Billing details, Credit card details,
Visa
xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx
exp 12/xx
Please deliver to
Steven xxxxxx
NoX street road
Suburb = xxxx
City = Wellington
Region/state= Wellington
Country = New Zealand
Post code xxxxx
Telehone number Work – 0064 4 xxxxxx, home - 0064 4 xxxx
So open a Brownells account, order the part. It will go on hold.
NB however if it isnt urgent Brownells is doing some specials over the next few weeks, a trigger may come up cheaper.
Then do the paper work and send it via snail mail, I use a 215mm x 105mm envelope and that is $2.50NZ in postage.
Allow $35US for postage and $10 for the state department fee. So you could get a total value of about $280US and avoid GST this end as long ie as its less than $400NZ when it arrives incl postage. I'd suggest filling up the value with small parts like gas rings etc to get the best value.
The State Department don't need your credit card details :D
I agree with you. Unfortunately, what you appear to have missed in my previous comment is that it is the NZ Police Policy to NOT issue a permit for something which does not legally require one. If you have an AO who is either ignorant of this policy or is just "a good bloke" and issues you one anyways, you are lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerbs
As Steven mentioned, some AOs don't even issue permits for items which NZ Police says that you need one for.
A permit is not required for parts of a sporting rifle or shotgun other than the complete upper action (upper and/or lower receiver for AR/AK types).
While it is always prudent (and the right thing anyways) to be polite to government officials, sometimes you do need to be assertive and enlighten them on what the law says, not what they think it says.
I'd call for a review on the training and education of AOs but I'm sure I would just be labeled a "whinging ungrateful git".;)
No but Sandy asked for that to be on the purchase order...Quote:
Originally Posted by Banana
or maybe its just me.
:(
@Koshogi actually I'd suggest its NZcustoms officers that need the education. Certainly Ive had far more trouble with customs officers over 30 years, then the Police by far, too many of them are arrogant, lazy pricks frankly.
Hi Steven,
Yes please send it through. One can't have enough information when it come to importing gun parts these days. Stupid thing is I already have an AR15 so getting a trigger up grade shouldn't be such a big deal. Anyway must jump through the necessary hoops!
E-Mail for me is mloeffen@slingshot.co.nz
Thanks Steven
Cheers V Man
Brownells sale, has some triggers.
oh and if anyone fancies one of these, dont they are crap.
http://www.brownells.com/shooting-ac...699-98803.aspx
If you want a good one of this type get the OZ made one.