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Hi mates,
I am looking forward to star shooting more professionally and I need a new gear. I am looking at three possible choices and would love to know what you think, to know your advice
- Marlin Model 60
- Mossberg 802
- Remington 572
I am leaning towards Mossberg but I admit I am not entirely sure as Remington also looks enticing.
Hey mate some interesting options there. Ya mention professionally so I’m guessing you’ll be shooting for pet food.
If that’s the case I’d hands down go Marlin, I’d avoid the mossberg and consider the Remington. Every Marlin I’ve had has shot like a demon and been reliable. Personally I’d go for the Marlin 795.
Reasons are
-semi so easy for quick follow ups
-mag fed so can run multiple mags if things get lively
-plastic fantastic as it’s going to get a few knocks around quads and utes
-pretty dam cheap for awesome accuracy
I guess you are working to a price point? And have no preference for semi or bolt. I don't personally like pump action 22s they can have issues.
I would also consider the Norinco jw 15 and rossi. The mossbergs are made by the same outfit as the rossi
For a semi, the marlin is a good option.
As mentioned, if doing this then a Norinco JW15 is a good reliable gun. Better yet throw the BRNO or CZ that it was copied from in there as a better quality option. To be honest, if you are doing this semi commercially, then it will be likely to get quite a bit of use. For this reason, I would suggest a model of rifle that is still in production and has parts available (especially magazines) such as the Marlin 795 (Semi auto) Norinco JW15, CZ 452,455 etc or BRNO (All bolt actions) Most pump actions and Lever guns have tube mags, and these can be a pain in the field when compared to "box" mags like the other options have especially if a suppressor is fitted. Also consider a suppressor. For a 22 these are very effective and will often allow a 2nd or 3rd shot at a group of vermin allowing for a higher tally. (I do this on rabbits.)
I think most commercial hunters use the good old ruger 10/22, must be a reason for that.
Marketing has a lot to do with it I suspect. Marlin is as least as good probably better accuracy wise than the later model rugers. Mind you there are so many aftermarket bits for rugers you can spend twice as much as it originally cost on pimping it up and it's still a ruger.
Disclaimer: I own a 10/22 as well as two other semis I use it regularly but it's not my favourite by any means.
My marlin 795 was a picky gun ammo wise with cycling that needed a lot more maintenance and cleaning than my 10/22,the 10/22 never jams and is every bit as accurate,magazine setup is better as well in my opinion,nothing protruding out the bottom to catch on things.
Out of those 3 choises - Marlin
My 925 is a tack driver.
Norinco next very overlooked wee shooter.
CZ do a 22 that would be hard to go past imho as well.
Remmy are crap fullstop regardless.
Ruger 10/22 are rubbish unless you remove everything Ruger from them and fit the likes of Volquartsen etc.
The main reason pros use the 10-22 is reliability, pure and simple. Several have told me that as long as you fully clean out the action every second brick, they will not let you down. Sure, they are a bit agricultural but the vast majority are def minute-of-bunny at 50yds. Cycling reliability is what lets many of the competitors down, especially with less than stellar maintenance.
I absolutely love my CZ 512, they cost over twice as much as a 10-22 though. I must add I have yet to hear anything bad about a Marlin, but I have not had the pleasure of trying one out.
Marlin 795. Cycle very well if run them clean and dry, with max one drop of oil to lube bolt. Then use only CCI ammos - loves them and will pop under 0.5" for groups at 50m.
After testing around 100 22s of all makes and models the Ruger 10/22 is no favourite - they were popular years ago because import restrictions prevented other semis coming into NZ. Had about 6 10/22s from standard to highly modded. Quite a good little semi but the least accurate of all 22 makes over sets of 50m groups off the bench. 60 meter shooter only. Not acceptable accuracy standard but can be a fun project rifle. Brazilian makes like Rossi, Magtech, later Mossbergs mostly made by CBC in Brazil. Very average in quality and performance.
Norinco JW15 would suit you well as suggested - can be very accurate and efficient wee hunters after a little polishing. CZ/Brno good rifles. Here's a good JW15 offer on trademe - exactly like the ones we prep:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=2609011816
After reading up on the same topic I've come to the Marlin 795 concusion too
Tell that to the countless thousands of pests that died because I used 10/22 most of the 31 years I was on the Pest Boards .As said they may not be the most accurate but as a functional pest control rifle they are hard to beat, mine is still stock standard and shoots well enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
Reliability and minute of (chest with any pick of animal) for accuracy matters only for pest control. I used one for a while it was good enough. Never bought one though cos at time it seemed like everyone was buying 10/22 I had to be a little different. Happy with my 795. Up to recently running unmodified. Shortened for suppressor and modded for subs. Ran a dream on HV ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mooseman
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I found the Ruger to be a good design, practical, easy to use a,d simple. But my limited experience with the ones I owned leads me to believe their quality control is not what it once as. I loved the look and feel of my mates one and had to get one. When I got it, it felt and handled the same, but I was getting 12 inch (dinner plate) groups at 50m. Gave up after gunsmith informed me it was the barrel that was causing the issue....There are great ones, good ones, average ones and shit ones, and they all look the same.....
absolutely love my 10/22, never has it let me down. used a 77/22 the other days as well, in the end the 10/22 was by far the favourite.
ive owned lots of 10/22's. a decent trigger job doesnt cost much. also fit a polymer buffer pin to make it quieter.
lots of afermarket parts available too
Why do I get the feeling this thread is BS , 1 post and lists three unsuitable rifles to shoot vermin... ? Who the fuck says Vermin..... it's called pest control work.... I might be wrong but it doesn't seem very legit.
:) :) Marlin 60 has proved the most accurate of my bunny shooters - and that is shooting Very big numbers. But... would not buy a 60 now with tube mag barrel pinning requirements etc - Found it too difficult to count numbers into tube in truck at night with ammo slot position. Now would go the little Marlin 795 blued or stainless for a sharp semi.
Remember doing a 22LR semiauto comparison for a hunting magazine years ago. Bench test of new Toz model 99, Ruger 10/22, and Marlin795. Took some time to ammo test them all and drill into their best ammos for grouping at 50m. Toz was very poor, and Ruger not alot better - averaging just over 1" for consecutive groups at 50m. (And that was the best over 6-8 rugers tested). Little Marlin (gadgetman's) was by comparison a treat to shoot and come back to. Sub half inch at 50 at best, and averaged just above that. Excellent barrel on a basic entry level shooter. Then continued benchrest test - putting the 795 Marlin against my own Marlin 60 DL. The 60DL won with groups down to 0.25" at 50m, but the 795 seriously impressed me. Both precision wee shooters in the field and that's what you want.
PS.... a correction - Marlin 60 DL best at 50m, but most accurate standard barrel sporter I benched at 100m was a Norinco EM332. Averaged 0.6" for four consecutive groups - couldn't believe my eyeballs - and it cost me $247 and still had cheap Huntsman 3-9 on it !!!!!!!!!!! :O_O: :wtfsmilie:
the only ever 22lr iv seen with a worn out barrel was a 1022Quote:
Originally Posted by The bomb
how many rabbits that must have been blew my mind
I love my little pooger, treat it like shit and its been a dream, I did pick up a second hand timney and that's made it realy nice
It would appear ?? that someone is playing some kind of game ? .
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....ar-stew-60800/
My webley and Scott xorcet carbon fibre does a good job
I'd just love to shoot something.
@Tankd Does seem a little suspicious given both dogs look very similar .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tankd
And both profiles have hyperlinks to oddly named URL's in their signature (I ain't clicking them!) Looks a bit suss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boaraxa
I've got a Ruger 10/22 that I've had since the late 70's when I was doing coons for a living, mine was always surprisingly accurate but in later years after a lot of use it's accuracy declined. This prompted me to consult the worlds greatest source of knowledge and as a result of what I was told I removed the bolt and thoroughly cleaned and reassembled it, a new experience for that gun and I. I'm happy to say that it's accuracy has been restored to it's former exceptional status, cheers Google.
Agree, both the OP and the critter Tankd posted a link to should be chopped off at the knees. Highly suspect
really? are we even doing this? Ruger 10/22 full stopQuote:
Originally Posted by peejay