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    It is described as both...public conservation land...

    I see how the argument could go both ways, and I understand the law is somewhat open to interpretation by the police. Not a comforting thought.

    I have seen a few posts about shooting along riverbanks. Is there some special provision for access and shooting along rivers?

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    Troll methinks
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeralPhilosopher View Post
    It is described as both...public conservation land...

    I see how the argument could go both ways, and I understand the law is somewhat open to interpretation by the police. Not a comforting thought.

    I have seen a few posts about shooting along riverbanks. Is there some special provision for access and shooting along rivers?
    Fortunately the legislature isn't actually "open to interpretation", especially not by those tasked to enforce it.
    It's written by highly paid individuals fluent in legalese. To say it's open to interpretation would imply they didn't know what they were doing.

    Riverbanks may or may not be subject to "the queen's chain"
    However... some or other act mentions that "the crown owns all animals" so there's that, too.
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    Actually all legislation is subject to interpretation. The court is the final arbitrator of what was intended by parliament. We need this to be so because parliament usually doesn’t know what it wants to achieve or what it intends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    Actually all legislation is subject to interpretation. The court is the final arbitrator of what was intended by parliament. We need this to be so because parliament usually doesn’t know what it wants to achieve or what it intends.
    Sort of like the ‘loaded in breech, barrel or magazine’ fiasco?
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    I don’t think there will be any issues killing pigeons or possums. But there is always someone who has an issue with someone having fun!

    I suggest calling DOC and that should clear it up for the DOC land side of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzza View Post
    a van driver in Auckland springs to mind.....

    I too remember that - but ‘shooting innocent members of public’ comment suggests he was not the only innocent member of public shot by police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sako851 View Post
    ..................................I suggest calling DOC and that should clear it up for the DOC land side of things.
    I disagree as DOC probably still employs ignorant muppets to answer queries.

    An example, an Ozzie harrier was killing my free range chickens and after checking the various acts, i found i was entitled to shoot them ( on my lifestyle property, in the country side away from dwellings etc) but two DOC Muppets said I could not shoot them as they were protected. Load of crap as the acts excluded them from protection.

    I challenged thism pointing them to the non protection and then they responded by saying i needed a licence to shoot them. Further I must apply for a licence which would require lotsa information , cost me $300 ( think) and may not even be approved with no refund of the $300.

    I spat the dummy, wrote the the then DOC Minister who apologised in writing for their staff's incorrect information and progressed a change to their legisation which made it clear that Ozzie Hariers depredators could be shot.

    SO, never accept unquestioningly that which a DOC person claims to be fact if it appears to be bull shit..
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    That’s kinda why I haven’t tried to call them, and why I asked you guys instead. If I can get hold of someone at DOC it will be a random desk jockey with no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeralPhilosopher View Post
    That’s kinda why I haven’t tried to call them, and why I asked you guys instead. If I can get hold of someone at DOC it will be a random desk jockey with no clue.
    But you'd rather just take random "advice" on a forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by FeralPhilosopher View Post
    That’s kinda why I haven’t tried to call them, and why I asked you guys instead. If I can get hold of someone at DOC it will be a random desk jockey with no clue.
    Do you work longer hours than 9-5 5days (I'm guessing office hours but google will help)a week? If not, put shoes on pavement go into your nearest office and ask to talk to someone who may know.... the office front desk person will likely know of a member of staff that hunts or is involved in pest control (highly bloody likely) if they are in a meeting or out and about come back or leave your number.

    Let us know how you get on
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    Or call into your local regional council office and ask to speak to the person issuing trapping permits.

    Phone DOC and ask to speak to the person/team issuing small game permits. Say that you have a technical question, and that you are happy for them to call you back rather than talking to a call center person.

    But you've kinda answered your own question already... I suspect you just don't like the answer. If you want to kill ANYTHING on DOC land, you need a DOC issued permit.

    If you really want to fill your boots with a slingshot, start door knocking and find a farmer willing to entertain that idea as some form of pest control on their land....
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    Thanks chaps. Will let you know when I get through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimms2 View Post
    My cousin got quite good at snotting possums out tree with a shanghai/slingshot. Came down with a headache and the estwing did the rest.

    Humane kill, would be the thing.
    I'm not sure what accuracy you can guarantee or what FPE you're slinging, seems a bit too easy to break a birds wing, rabbit's leg etc, without incapacitating em.

    But yeah. If you're competent enough with it to deal proper damage, have at it.
    Unlikely DOC will permit you. Their minimum requirement for a bow is/was 35# draw... slinging 400 odd grain arrow/broadhead probably doing 120-170fps for 12-25FPE...
    Probably no different to the wallys that "practice" long range shooting on goats. Always seems weird to me the number of people that are fine with stretching the limits at non ethical distances on goats. Hate to imagine the amount left gut shot and not followed up just because they're pests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FeralPhilosopher View Post
    Thanks chaps. Will let you know when I get through.
    @FeralPhilosopher how did you get on at the local doc office?

 

 

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