Hi all
Looking to update from old spot light and gel cell to something lighter with a nice range out to 75-100m. Bring on the recommendations!
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Hi all
Looking to update from old spot light and gel cell to something lighter with a nice range out to 75-100m. Bring on the recommendations!
Maxtoch 2x if you can find one locally @mudgripz you got one left ?
I don't have one Dan but pretty sure Greg Maniatis gunsmith in Christchurch has 1-2 plus gear. His number 027 4879611
Just put a Led Lensor P7R (rechargeable) through its paces for a couple of nights work. Cracking little torch. I have it in a bracket that goes on a picatinny rail with a quick release button. Good range and good battery life. Easily the best wee light I have used and as it is not mounted on the scope the rifle handles so much better. Get one! 1000 lumens. My old P7 was 450 so a huge jump up.
You can use a GM05 with a Nitecore torch of choice.
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Coupled with a P30 long throw torch
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Depending on the rifle, have you considered mounting the torch under the rifle. A piece of PVC the right size with a split down it and heated and shaped to spring over the torch works well. Keeps the balance of the rifle and the torch can go in and out of the holder as you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walker
Only way is this
I have Olight and Maxtoch
Same for both (same torch
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I have some chinese lenser knock-offs. CREE type LED. Wiill fit 35mm rings/mounts with bushing (like pvc mentioned above) 3xAAA. Flood-spot adjust. 80lumens IIRC
My eyes aint good but I can pick up coons out to 50 just looking, 120+ through optics.
$15+postage
I can vouch for the Nitecore P30 great beam length and a lot smaller than the Maxtoch. Easily light up bunnys at 100m and the ability to go well beyond that.
Much better under than on the scope I guess because its further forward. Cuts the glare out of the scope specially with a suppressor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moa Hunter
I've been using a Nitecore P30 since April 2018. Sold all my maxitorch stuff soon after purchasing the P30's.
Main advantages of the P30 for me are:
1. Single battery torch. Makes it way easer to manage battery's of various ages and/or capacities. Throw a battery in, run it till the light indicates its time to change, change and keep going. I found with double cell torches, one poor cell lets the pair down and you are changing out batteries unnecessarily. Means you carry less batteries for a nights shooting.
2. Single battery torch is way lighter and smaller. Less weight and less effect on rifle balance. Also makes it easy to carry a spare P30 on a belt holster just in case one fails (never happened yet, but it could).
3. Coupled to the Nitecore GM02 mount, the torch can be mounted to any short section of rail in a really slim line profile.
4. Due to the above, I mount my lights under my rifles. Using a router bit, I machine a small flat surface on the bottom of my wooden stocks dead parallel with the top of the barrel channel, and mount a small screw on section of rail. This way the torch mount is parallel to the barrel and is closer to the barrel centreline as opposed to mounting the torch on top of the scope, which puts the centre of the light beam all but dead centre with the point of impact. Once mounted the torch becomes a foregrip which helps with ergonomics of free hand shooting. A quick flick of the rear button on the torch after spotting your target with the head lamp and its all lit up for the kill.
5. P30 had two buttons. One is a separate on/off and the other is the power setting. Set the power you want once, then use the on/off. Never have to cycle through the useless flashing modes common with single button models.
If you want some photos showing the setup I can snap some images tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Brian
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I use the GM02Quote:
Originally Posted by terryf
Would love to see a side by side comparison with the maxtoch 2x I'd be supprised if it could match it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
The 2 battery thing isnt an issue no more complicated than changing a single battery torch twice as often imo.
If anyone in chch or North Canty wants to pit there p30 up against a 2x I'd be happy to meet up.
Well there are a host of variants from the GM02 picatinny mount, the GM05 scope mount to the GM01 barrel mount - all depends on what you need/prefer.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
GM02 and GM05 are by far the most popular coupled with a pressure switch.
Its not designed to match it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
The Maxtoch throws a 1200m beam as opposed to the 618 of the P30 but then its half the weight and much smaller.
P30 is also cheaper. Its a case of buying what you need and that fits into your shooting style within your budget.
I don't think anyone wants a pissing competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
The two are quite different torches in price, size, power. I think for shooting to 100m (as OP stated) the P30 or similar would be more than adequate.
Fair call, wasn't ragging nitecore at all :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by terryf
Pissing competition :-))Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Like Rain wear - Sleeping Bags - Caliber's - Tikka versa "the rest" :-))))))))
Everyone who owns "x" Brand has the best and rest are not as good :-)
Re - above or below Re light position
Interesting - I do both - under is via Magnetic clamp
To be honest - do not see any visual diff - but I am getting rather blind.
I like above and I can protect the light better
"Horses for courses"
I've owned both the P30 and the 2x, at the same time, and have done the side by side. Due to the points I made in my previous post, and the fact that the difference in usable light output at rimfire varmint shooting ranges is negligible (.22LR, .22WMR and .17HMR), I sold the 2x and all of my other two battery torches (actually I gave three of them away here on the forum https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co....en-away-43724/).Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
Yes, on a reflective surface "way out there" the 2x will reveal more, but shooting the P30 has never left me feeling under illuminated.
In terms of battery usage, I have found battery changes on the P30 to be less frequent than I was getting in the 2x, and I only have to carry half the number. More light output of the 2x demand more current, flattens batteries.
I have never spotlighted for deer, so on that topic I will let other share their wisdom.
Another thing to consider is, do you use a supplementary hand held torch or a head lamp for finding your quarry, and how does it's output match up to your rifle mounted light? I personally use an LED head lamp with 4x or 6x 18650 battery pack on my belt, and I only turn my rifle mounted light on when its time to shoot. My head lamp is specifically chosen so that it has a wider flood beam which is 5-10% under powered compared to the rifle mounted light. That way when you go up to shoot, you always know that your are going to have a higher illumination from the gun light for added safety.
I would have shot well in excess of 1,000 rabbits with my current setup, and probably a couple hundred possums. Love'n it!
No worries, I sell Nitecore but its not best for a lot of applications and I'm the first to admit that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyb
I certainly wouldn't want to sell something to someone that isn't fit for purpose - in this case I believe that the P30 would be more suited to the OP than the Maxtoch in question.
Another brand to consider would be Olight, they make fantastic torches. Warrior X is a good option if the price is right and comparable to the P30.
The other consideration would be the warranty period. Nitecore and Olight are 5 years and, if memory serves, the Maxtoch is 12 months but they'll fix almost any age torch that comes across the workbench.
So all are a safe bet in terms of warranties.
Ok thats some good info guy's, sounds like the P30 would be ideal for the smallish dairy farms I wander around up here, usually wear a led lenser for travel/coons but need to spot at bunnies and hares in the gullies.
@Walker I've got a maxtoch 2x you can borrow if you'd like to try it out. Looks like I'm just up the road from you. Send me a PM if you want to give it a try
Given the OP asked for a light that only needs to reach 100m, I don't know why anyone is suggesting one that uses 2 x 18650 cells.
The new single-18650 Maxtoch would be more than adequate for this and certainly compact enough.
Its called the Archer and is pretty damned good.Quote:
Originally Posted by 6x47
+1 for Archer. More than adequate for the intended use by OPQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Worth a read, reviews of the Archer and the P30. There's a few other reviews of these two models on the forum below if you do a search.
Maxtoch M1 Archer NOW AVAILABLE/// Totally Dedomed SST 40 /// Full Review | BudgetLightForum.com
Nitecore P30 Compact Thrower (XP-L Hi,18650) Review +Outdoor Beamshots | BudgetLightForum.com
At the end of the day, finding the perfect light is like the search for the perfect rifle calibre …….. cant be done!
That's why we as the hunters and providers for our families need more than one gun, and more than one fishing rod …….. and more than one light!
ihave someting similar i got of gadgetman a few years ago and that wee bugger even withstood the 12g semiauto forces as i took out 2x shagnasty feral cats.Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms
now mounts via DIY on scope of my .22-good for 100m -send out the jackos!
Do you have a aliexpress link for them? At weekend I tried to get some bunnies with air rifle using Fenix 220 lumen head torch but was a PITA as it needed to have the head torch pointed about 30 degrees left when walking so that it was aimed correctly when looking through scope. Then tried strapping my 650 lumen MTB light under fore end but its got wide beam so doesn't have enough throw. Certainly can't justify a Maxtoch as it'd be worth more than the air rifle!Quote:
Originally Posted by mimms
No Just the ones I got . They're these. I pity the fool that pays $116USD though!Quote:
Originally Posted by uk_exile
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Here’s Maxtoch
NZ$ 256.18 | MAXTOCH Shooter 2X XHP70.2 version 3800 lumens, WIDE angle beam, Neutral White Wide Angle Flood Beam Search Flashlight
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