Thread: 1080 question

Originally Posted by Strummer

Interesting. Where did these figures come from? Thanks

Deer and other living animals except dogs metabolise sub lethal doses of 1080 quite rapidly, basically every 9 hours the amount of the poison in the body halves. So a 100 kg animal that had eaten 10 baits would have consumed enough 1080 to have a .2 mg/kg concentration in its body. It would be ill but the fatal dose is .5mg/kg so it would recover. After 9 hours the 1080 concentration in its body would have dropped to .1 and 9 hours later it would be .05 then .025, .0125, etc till after 8 days all traces would be gone.
So say your deer has eaten 10 pellets 2 hours before you shoot it which gives time for the poison to distribute around the body, it will be bloody unwell and probably grateful to you for shooting it.
You now have a dead deer with a concentration of .2 mg/kg of meat. As it's dead that concentration remains pretty constant it doesn't drop like it does in a live animal.
You eat 1 kg at a sitting (because you are a big eater and bloody hungry) so you have consumed .2 mg of 1080 which is now being distributed around your 100 kg body which gives you a body concentration of .0002 mg of 1080 or 1000th of the dose that made the deer ill and your body is happily getting rid of half of it every 9 hours.
So I'd happily eat your deer.
As to the source of these figures the attached file is a zoology paper on it and brodi. Personally I am more concerned about brodi as an environmentally persistent poison with serious potential to bioaccumulate than I am about 1080.