Thread: 223 on deer

Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag

I don't think you use a Tikka @gimp ?

I think it may be a Tikka thing, 77gr TMK's great groups, 73gr ELDM's also group fine but the 80gr ELDM's not good

I couldn’t get my Tikka to shoot the 80 eldm’s no matter what I tried , the 77 TMK’s shot way better . I think there is a pattern emerging on this thread of Tikka’s not liking the 80 eldm’s , maybe barrel twist or chamber dimensions play a part in it ?

Originally Posted by gimp

No trouble for me stabilizing in 1:8 at 2786fps.

Same here no troubles, 1:8 howa 2710fps.

Gentlemen - thoughts on a projectile for a 18" 1:9 twist? Thanks

Originally Posted by Tentman

Gentlemen - thoughts on a projectile for a 18" 1:9 twist? Thanks

55g gameking code #1365

60g NBT for the distance work

69gr targex, 69gr TMK if you can find it

69 gr sst on remmi vtr 1:8 twist. I think , never checked Can't say on deer but works at up 800m on big red boomer roos , still opens with just just full penetration at this distance thru boiler room head/ neck shots full penetration T
At 800m no recovery of projjie

Originally Posted by Sharki

69 gr sst on remmi vtr 1:8 twist. I think , never checked Can't say on deer but works at up 800m on big red boomer roos , still opens with just just full penetration at this distance thru boiler room head/ neck shots full penetration T
At 800m no recovery of projjie

SST? Hornady?

Originally Posted by Tahr

SST? Hornady?

I don't believe there ever was a 69gr .224" SST.

Most of people go for the shoulder/ grease shots with 223 at 300 or so meters. Now you all put to shame with 800 m head shots on roos. I need to dust off the 223 and start practicing.

Really,800mtr with 223 on big roos.Id thort the 223 wouldv run out of puff by then for kill shots.?

That's an interesting question... Modern type ammo has certainly made a lot of difference to the performance of this round.

An old culler I knew for a while used a .223 for quite a bit - his viewpoint was "anywhere in the eye son, anywhere in the eye". Dunno how many animals he accounted for with the caliber but I think it would be safe to measure it in barrels rather than rounds or animals. He did make an addition to that statement once in my hearing though, "now that's anywhere in the two eyes at the front knowing your type - I'm not talking about the Inglewood eyeball son...".

24gr 2206h. Loaded 0.020” off at an overall length of 2.515”.

I had the throat on mine pushed forward by 0.080”

Originally Posted by Hunter_Nick

24gr 2206h. Loaded 0.020” off at an overall length of 2.515”.

I had the throat on mine pushed forward by 0.080”

Ok cool, if I give it another go at least I have an idea where to start.

Cheers mate

it was suggested above that removing 80% of the plastic tip made a difference all be it at expence of not being so aerodynamic....
now if my memory is correct (sometimes its not) the nosler ballistic tip was one of if not the first projectile to get better B.C. by adding tip..and before that..pretty much all the precision ammunition would have been hollow point??? the theory being the small pocket of air in HP was more uniform than mashed lead tip???? if that is ideed the case,maybe melt out that plastic tip completely and have a 78???grain hollow point that is now slightly shorter ???? maybe better??? maybe not...but if you have a box of them and struggle to get them to group all it will cost you is a little time and half dozen round to prove it one way or the other...

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

it was suggested above that removing 80% of the plastic tip made a difference all be it at expence of not being so aerodynamic....
now if my memory is correct (sometimes its not) the nosler ballistic tip was one of if not the first projectile to get better B.C. by adding tip..and before that..pretty much all the precision ammunition would have been hollow point??? the theory being the small pocket of air in HP was more uniform than mashed lead tip???? if that is ideed the case,maybe melt out that plastic tip completely and have a 78???grain hollow point that is now slightly shorter ???? maybe better??? maybe not...but if you have a box of them and struggle to get them to group all it will cost you is a little time and half dozen round to prove it one way or the other...

Some say lipstick on a pig...what happens at the end is more important.2C.