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Has anyone tried these rounds on game before?
I'm not sure they'll stabilize in my Vixen with its slow twist, but as I'm a non reloader, factory ammunition is currently my only option.
Those numbers on box are surprisingly good. I have used the 50 grn ttsx with great results. But I keep range under 150yards.they kill well
They need a 9T or faster.
62-grain TSX BT / TAC-X BT Sectional Density .177 Ballistic Coefficient .287 C.O.A.L 2.250”
Powder
PowerPro Varmint
A-2460 CFE 223 AR-Comp A-2015 BL-C(2) TAC H4895 *Varget RL 15
Charge (grains)
Velocity (fps)
Charge (grains)
Velocity (fps)
23.5
2860
26.2C
3154
22.4
2818
24.9
3119
24.2
2838
26.9C
3163
21.2
2802
23.5
3082
20.0
2795
22.0
3018
23.5
2825
25.5
3046
22.5
2787
24.5
3055
22.5
2876
24.5
3034
23.5
2807
25.5C
3021
23.5
2876
25.5C
3066
Suggested Bullet Use
62-grain TTSX BT Sectional Density .177 Ballistic Coefficient .294 C.O.A.L 2.250”
Suggested Bullet Use
69-grain Match Burner Sectional Density .196 Ballistic Coefficient .339 C.O.A.L 2.250”
Suggested Bullet Use
Recommended Twist: 1:9” or faster
Slow twist you MIGHT get a 40-45grn mono to stabilise but most are too long so need faster twist.
Would an unstable bullet still be stable enough to 50 odd meters? or would they be horribly wonky from the muzzle?
I'm not shooting too distance, only bush hunting ranges so i don't need super accuracy.
I wonder how effective or uneffective a unstable projectile would be at close range.
You would be better off with 55gr Sierra GMK or 60gr SP Hornady [2270]. The Barnes kinda like a hot boiler room. 2C.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9STAGS
I wouldn't do it....you know that sooner or later you will get only chance of day at hundyish and will wound or miss. I've been down this track and it's bloody frustrating and just not worth the hassle. At the sub 150 ranges the 50-55grn or even up to 64grn Winchester factory stuff work fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9STAGS
223ai up and running. 16" 1:7 twist chucking out the 88 eld's at 2600, or 62gr coppers at 3000.
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HT-70LRF bang on out to 800m. Mostly wallabies but deer are gonna be in trouble too!
YES on so many levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Not to mention the pigs, hares, feral cats, hedgehogs, Canada geese or unlucky bunny wabbits!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
69gr targex getting used in the wild.
CZ527, one off chassis.
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I just love that scope cap
That's coolQuote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Pic of the rest of the rig
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You say one off chassis, so did you make the chassis or someone else?
Thats a Wingman chassis
I think they are the business on deerQuote:
Originally Posted by 25/08 IMP
That's sweet what magazine are you running for the 88s?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pommy
Edit: Nevermind chassis means non tikka mags
I'm making full use of a Tikka pattern Waters mag. Bullets are seated out at 2.590".Quote:
Originally Posted by Stocky
Although the 77tmk do shoot alot better so do the 80 targex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
I may have 3 boxes to sell soon
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@Barefoot ^ What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias
Does anyone have any experience with Sako ammo in .223? I’ve acquired a CZ527 in .223 and tried Hornady American Whitetail 60gr interlocks, Federal Fusion 62gr SP and Winchester 64gr SP.
None of the above group particularly well. Circa 1.5” at 100m. The rifle, while second hand, has had very few rounds through it.
I have it on good authority at the twist rate of the barrel is 1:9 although it’s possible it’s 1:12.
Any suggestions on ammo options to try?
I’m not in a position to reload for it at the moment unfortunately.
Cheers,
Andrew
I’m
Fiocchi 55gn soft points......yet to see a 223 that doesn't shoot them wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Andrew46826
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Originally Posted by Andrew46826
I have found a number of those rifles in 223 that came out with action screws that were too long, binding in their locating hole - and not tightening the stock properly to the action
Check that your action screws are the correct length
You can measure your twist rate with a cleaning rod. Recommend you determine that before doing anything else.
May also be worth looking at the bedding between stock and action. Mine needed tidying up and screws needed to be properly torqued otherwise it was pretty hopeless.
Then worry about ammo. Honestly, 1.5" with soft points is not alarmingly bad by itself.
And do try some 55grn stuff. It sort of eliminating other possible issues.
Good grief I butchered that post with my grammar.
The rifle has been bedded, however I note that the barrel does come in close contact with the stock although not quite touching.
I will have a look at the action screw lengths.
I was hoping to use something heavier than 55grn for deer however I might have to settle for it.
Cheers for the help!
Yep. 62s are where the good stuff starts with Barnes. Better have a 9” twist because they are long.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9STAGS
Ha ha yeah no, not even close to a 9" twist.Quote:
Originally Posted by 260madman
I kind of got lazy with my shooting as I used to use 130gr hollow points in my .308 and any misplaced shots still did enough damage and left enough of a blood trail to ensure very few animals ever got away.
Since Ive switched to .223, Ive had a Whitetail doe, a Red stag and a Sika spiker get away, which has left me with a 3 from 6 success rate, which is no where near good enough. All with 55gr Hornadys.
I'm not sure if they were hits or misses, as no blood was found and no animal, even after a lot of searching.
I like the idea of heavier weight projectiles for now.
Some time at the range will determine what I use as a hunting round moving forward.
1 inch groups at 50m will be good enough for what I want to do.
Long term a rebarrel could be on the cards.
If you hand load you’d be amazed by the 52 grn Targex in a slow twist.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9STAGS
No I don't unfortunately, but thank you for the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
If I can get some made up one day to try out I'll be sure to post any results.
Cheers.
Load 55gr Hornady sp [no cannelure] with 25gr BM2 in Tikka 8T. No wounded animals. My mate loves the recipe. We out on thursday nite. Point, bang, gut.Quote:
Originally Posted by 9STAGS
Another happy Dad and Daughter (12) hunt.
She really has the bug now. She shot her first goat, a billy @60m, as well as two more the next day @220m.
75gr eldm @2900fps.
I shot the little stag (@70m high neck) as we were down to the wire to get one for the kids hunting comp. But she helped me gut and later butcher it.
She got to carry her first pig too for abit after we got it to the top of the hill. No 223 on the pig, was a 44mag.
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Great stuff
Good pig that.
55grn VMAX from 225 yards steeply downhill. In through ribs ,left patch bloodied of about 6" the young stag kicked out when hit,ran into cover and made all of fifteen yards before doing the moonwalk then falling over.,long way to carry so didn't look further for damage.
do you use those v max rounds much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
. I got one box of it and the first fallow I shot at around 250 meters it nearly split the heart in half, couldn't believe the damage at the time. Next deer I shot at 15 meters the bullet hit a rib on the way in a broke up ,only a few small fragments went through and peppered the heart. Still killed it but I had my doubts after that and went to the Belmont stuff
It's my wallaby load sometimes.was heaviest load I had on hand and figured out past 150 it should've slowed down a bit so not so explode. Agree std cup n core better up close.
