Thread: 223 on deer

@Ground Control

Waters Rifleman do a 'drop in' AICS kit for the Howa 1500, should make it possible to shoot 2.4"+ COAL .223 rounds:

Thanks for that .
At the moment I want to keep the internal magazine, but it’s good to know that there is that option available.
I just don’t like Magazines that protrude down out of the Stock .
They always annoy me when carrying the rifle and I never shoot more than a couple or three rounds when hunting so extra capacity isn’t a requirement.
The 73 gn eldm’s should do everything I’m after and the reduced BC compared to the 75 gn eldm doesn’t worry me any because I won’t be shooting further tham 300 anyway.
I’m just chasing a heavier projectile for Game shooting, not long range target shooting.

Originally Posted by Ground Control

Thanks for that .
At the moment I want to keep the internal magazine, but it’s good to know that there is that option available.
I just don’t like Magazines that protrude down out of the Stock .
They always annoy me when carrying the rifle and I never shoot more than a couple or three rounds when hunting so extra capacity isn’t a requirement.
The 73 gn eldm’s should do everything I’m after and the reduced BC compared to the 75 gn eldm doesn’t worry me any because I won’t be shooting further tham 300 anyway.
I’m just chasing a heavier projectile for Game shooting, not long range target shooting.

For 300m and in, I'd just run standard 55 grain SP rounds.

If you want to do further research, hit up Google and put in ' scenarshooter 220 swift 24hourcampfire ' and ' Formidilosus 77 tmk '

The former has killed a ton of black bears with 55 grain SP's and the later loves 77 TMK's for elk out of a Tikka.

Personally would always choose a single stack AICS style mag if feeding longer than SAMMI spec rounds. Much harder to fuck up feeding them vs a double stacked floorplate.

Originally Posted by caberslash

Formidilosus 77 tmk

It's worth noting that while the 77 TMK seems to work great, it appears from threads on other forums that this dude potentially has made up a lot of the stuff he posts on the internet

Originally Posted by gimp

It's worth noting that while the 77 TMK seems to work great, it appears from threads on other forums that this dude potentially has made up a lot of the stuff he posts on the internet

Bunji returns ?

Originally Posted by gimp

It's worth noting that while the 77 TMK seems to work great, it appears from threads on other forums that this dude potentially has made up a lot of the stuff he posts on the internet

Lacking a bit of powder upstairs? LOL.

Finally got around to load developing mine, been busy on my other rifles which are proving difficult.

69gr targex, over 2206H. 2790fps average. Job done, time to mass produce 90x and bring home some free range critters

Originally Posted by Southerner223

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Finally got around to load developing mine, been busy on my other rifles which are proving difficult.

69gr targex, over 2206H. 2790fps average. Job done, time to mass produce 90x and bring home some free range critters

What rifle and barrel length? Very similar load to what I have for my Howa Mini. Mine 0.2gr less, but haven't really mucked around too much with it yet.

Yeah kiwi Greg tried 2206H when developing loads and it was closer to 2900 at max, didn't get as good accuracy tho

I'm using CCI450s

Originally Posted by gimp

Yeah kiwi Greg tried 2206H when developing loads and it was closer to 2900 at max, didn't get as good accuracy tho

I'm using CCI450s

Thanks for that info mate

Last evening. 150 yds. 80 grn Targex (powder H2206).
Point of shoulder heart shot.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Last evening. 150 yds. 80 grn Targex (powder H2206).
Point of shoulder heart shot.

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Gosh I love that hut

Originally Posted by Freezer

Gosh I love that hut

@Freezer the stove going full bore last night cooking dinner.

Originally Posted by Tahr

@Freezer the stove going full bore last night cooking dinner.

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@Tahr, It is a few years since I was installing Log burners. Looking at yours and not being able to tell exactly the distances from a photo, it does look a bit close to a combustible surface - that being the ply. For an unshielded fire like a Pot belly the offset is something like 90cm.
As your flue is unshielded ( no reflector ) the ply behind it is likely hotter than is safe. Wood will get dryer and dryer until a point where it combusts easily. From memory the surface cannot exceed 90 degrees, but I think that is of a non combustible surface.
A simple and tidy solution is to run a couple of sheets of baby iron up the two walls behind mounted on Rondo battens with airflow allowed by gapping the iron off the floor and leaving a gap at the top. My guess is that a camping type burner like that doesnt come with an install spec ?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

@Tahr, It is a few years since I was installing Log burners. Looking at yours and not being able to tell exactly the distances from a photo, it does look a bit close to a combustible surface - that being the ply. For an unshielded fire like a Pot belly the offset is something like 90cm.
As your flue is unshielded ( no reflector ) the ply behind it is likely hotter than is safe. Wood will get dryer and dryer until a point where it combusts easily. From memory the surface cannot exceed 90 degrees, but I think that is of a non combustible surface.
A simple and tidy solution is to run a couple of sheets of baby iron up the two walls behind mounted on Rondo battens with airflow allowed by gapping the iron off the floor and leaving a gap at the top. My guess is that a camping type burner like that doesnt come with an install spec ?Attachment 203252

I will measure the distance from the flu to the wall. I did put my and on the ply and it was only just warm.

It came from China. No specs.