Wondering the max effective killing range of a 20inch barrelled 300wsm on animals such as red deer and bull thar?.
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Wondering the max effective killing range of a 20inch barrelled 300wsm on animals such as red deer and bull thar?.
Long way bro depending on set up and your abilitys
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In my opinion if people have to ask these sorts of questions then a) they shouldn't use the cal and b) don't go hunting until you know your rifle. So much info in nz hunting books and on the internet about all this sort of thing. It all comes down to shooter ability. Even on the side of the ammo box it has info on velocity etc. Don't try to shoot beyond your ability because someone told you a particlar calibre could shoot 1000mtrs.
And your choice of pill. Dunno about 20in barrel but in 24in bbl Weatherby with 178 AMAXs 800 yards is realistic if it’s now blowing its tits off
More wanting to know how much effective cutting 4 inches off will effect killing range from someone with same barrel length and cal.
Work on about 40fps lost per inch of barrel length lost. So roughly lose 160 fps. Run it through a ballistic calculator. Look for about 1800fps velocity and/or 1000ft lbs energy as an idea of the limit.
You would probably be at about the same velocity/ energy levels as a 30 06 with 165 gr bullets so you should be OK out to about 700 odd yards so long as you can place your shot well.
I run a 20 inch barrel on my 300wsm.Using 178 elf-x at 2950fps.Shoot gongs at 800 yards with 1256ft lbs of energy so still capable of further.I only shoot animals out to 500 tho as that’s what I feel comfortable of a good clean kill.If you are going to try longer ranges,practice on paper and gongs before the real thing
What type of rangefinder do you use @Monk?
A 1 moa group at 700 metres is about an 8" (20cm) diameter circle. ANY wind or shooter error or even slight range under or over estimation will mean a miss or a wound. I don't believe such shooting is ethical with sporter rifles. I agree with @Monk. Not many hunters are capable of reliably shooting inside 1 moa at much over 200m.
Yeh maybe, but on the hill under the pump I’d say there’s a huge difference.
A 400 metre shot at an animal is a long way and most piss cutters don’t shoot steel and paper each week to verify and have the confidence to know what day of the week it is.
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I think they are probably politicians and their departmental advisors ;)
You nailed it, my friend!
Few weekend warriors could hit a flock of circus tents at 700-1,000 yards. We hear about the miraculous long shot kills on elk here in the States all the time. None of these yokels ever admit to the wounded ones that ran off until they finally dropped one.
600m with factory ammo with practice is doable, 800m handloads with a bit of skill and good gear e.g. good dail up scope, Ballistic app, rangefinder, windmeter if shooting in any. Your gona need plenty deep pockets to run a 300wsm with the trigger time needed to shoot that far on targets even before nocking a deer over.
What setup are you using at the moment?
Great question mate.....I use a range finder for golfing,hunting,and a plethora of other things.......distance in the Bush can be subjective.....if you can glass an animal ,then you can range find it....makes it simple....I have the Vortex optics fury HD 10x42...a little spendy yeah I know....but the number of times I’ve made an estimate of distance only to find I was no where close.......
Yeah Gibo.... it is.... but it’s bloody accurate... do u have one,or is that just reading stuff?
QUOTE=Gibo;740461]Vortex is still an estimate :P[/QUOTE]
Its my opinion of vortex :D
I suppose it partly depends on the air rifle... If it's one of those 50 cal beasts, I'd believe it... but in my experience, you shoot a pouk at greater than about 50 yards and it will pretty much look at you and tell you to piss off. Even with my 22LR with a 12X scope, taking a small animal out at 150 yards is no easy feat.
You need to get one of them ranger range finders, you get a lot more for your money, generally about four meters.
Not sure if my sarcasm in my posts is understood.
Yep. I think some "did'nt get it " @Taff
Aaah, Gibo mate, bit of online sport eh.
I use a Vortex 1500 in furious anti-goat actions as the mob scatters across the hill. My trusty spotter will call "Grey one running left 617! Black and white running down 430! Brown one stationary 478! White billy heading left 595!"
Click click click and one after the other, they all end up rolling down the hill.
It's a bloody neat bit of kit that little rangefinder, love it. It ranges across our valley here at home to a validated 1240m without a second thought. Haven't ever bothered pointing it anything further than that.
More interested in the Vortex than the original op. I'm looking at getting one. Apart from Gibo (we all know he's getting one saving up for it as we speak) who else has one and what's the pros and cons.
Himmm bugger high jacked this thread tooooo:ORLY:
I got one. Works good as gold and I have had no issues with it at all. Bought it at Bass Pro in Orlando. I originally wanted to buy a more expensive brand. The guy behind the counter recommended the Vortex instead. I know he’s the “guy behind the counter” but happy I took his advice.
Same down here in spots. Used to come up on the lawn off the lake, they also hassled the ducks.
Dog sorted it. and they went away after only one casualty
Yea, a good dog is worth its weight sometimes.