Thread: 45/70 Subsonic

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Nice little exit wound, a big slow lump like that does less tissue damage than a supersonic one. No lead snow storm, and as I once heard someone say you can eat "right up to the hole", but he may have been talking about something else

only my opinion here but i do think the nose profile of the bullet has a lot to do with the results . . a good meplat will cut/disrupt thru tissue while others such as round nose or non explanding profiles will part tissue at sub speed.

Originally Posted by rossi.45

only my opinion here but i do think the nose profile of the bullet has a lot to do with the results . . a good meplat will cut/disrupt thru tissue while others such as round nose or non explanding profiles will part tissue at sub speed.

Yep, a nice flat nose meplat does most of the work almost as effectivly as a hollow point i believe. I shoot my 3030 exclusivly now with cast bullets, the lee 170 grain flat point over 9 grains of bluedot works a treat and chronied at an average of 1100fps. And my original trapdoor still occasionally speaks with authority on game with a 405 and black powder. I cant see what ive hit till the smoke clears so dont need a second shot

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Yep, a nice flat nose meplat does most of the work almost as effectivly as a hollow point i believe. I shoot my 3030 exclusivly now with cast bullets, the lee 170 grain flat point over 9 grains of bluedot works a treat and chronied at an average of 1100fps. And my original trapdoor still occasionally speaks with authority on game with a 405 and black powder. I cant see what ive hit till the smoke clears so dont need a second shot

always think of Custers Last Stand whenever i come across a Springfield Trapdoor . .. bullets from them with the power to shoot clean thru an Indians horse at 500yds with the original load of the day . . . maybe hard for people raised with high velocity cartridges to appreciate what the momentum of a slow moving Big lump of lead can do when it hits something . . i liken it to if you got hit by a bike at 80ks or a bus at 30ks, both will hurt . . but it wont stop the bus.

the numbers in balistic charts dont do the big bores justice or reflect the true performance in the field . . not sure if the Taylor KO factor is better but its something to consider for hunters