Thread: Big deer numbers being taken out of the Ruapehu/Wanganui?

At $9 a kilo and 20 deer/hour it’s barely paying for venison recovery, it’s a top up to help pay culling costs.

Helo hours
Fuel
Maintanance
Pilot
Rifles, shooter hours, ammo
Ground crew
Ute fuel, RUC, driver
Chiller truck, driver, fuel, RUC
GST

The true cost often shows up a week or two later when you prep for the next job

Yip the numbers are unbelievable but very true fallow as well thousands my last place is mainly carbon and he’s got real fear deer are going to eat his money a lot is pre planting culls then one rubbed tree is enough to have another crack their is an in godly amount of deer around

Its true.
Was in a group of 5 that shot 181 fallow in just over 24 hours earlier this year on a block.
Uncle has a farm in the whanganui back country that we cull around 250 fallow from each year.

Mate does alot of chopper shooting and the talleys are mind-numbing.

Originally Posted by lau lau

Its true.
Was in a group of 5 that shot 181 fallow in just over 24 hours earlier this year on a block.
Uncle has a farm in the whanganui back country that we cull around 250 fallow from each year.

Mate does alot of chopper shooting and the talleys are mind-numbing.

If you or your uncle ever need a hand, I'm based in South Taranaki and have plenty of freezer space/veni eating mates

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

At $9 a kilo and 20 deer/hour it’s barely paying for venison recovery, it’s a top up to help pay culling costs.

Helo hours
Fuel
Maintanance
Pilot
Rifles, shooter hours, ammo
Ground crew
Ute fuel, RUC, driver
Chiller truck, driver, fuel, RUC
GST

The true cost often shows up a week or two later when you prep for the next job

Correct however we aren't talking recovery jn the case I referred too, we're talking shoot to wast. Contracted on an hourly rate for a prescribed period, regardless of numbers shot.

in raetihi between 10 of us we shot 68 in 2 days and a couple years ago. the farmer had a culler on the farm who put a thermal over one of his paddocks and asked how many sheep were in the paddock to the cullers surprise he farmer replied with none so gods knows how many there to give a professional culler a surpise

private land*

Shit its crazy numbers , probably all in great nik as well eating the grass and crops , what a waste of prime meat

my dads a butcher and he hates wasting meet so id say out of 68 we would have bought back 60 odd. back yard butcher shop was full

Originally Posted by tiroahunta

Math.

1800 over 10 hours(simplicitys sake) 180 / hrs is 3 a minute/ average. Would 1.5 rounds / animal be about right? 2700,rounds.

I'm thinking sore thumbs from loading.... I'd believe rhe numbers bring high...they were high 20,years ago...

Shotguns were what I was told they were using

Originally Posted by 7mmsaum

At $9 a kilo and 20 deer/hour it’s barely paying for venison recovery, it’s a top up to help pay culling costs.

Helo hours
Fuel
Maintanance
Pilot
Rifles, shooter hours, ammo
Ground crew
Ute fuel, RUC, driver
Chiller truck, driver, fuel, RUC
GST

The true cost often shows up a week or two later when you prep for the next job

Could you put some numbers next to these costs.
Don't doubt it adds up fast but would like to see where the big costs lie.

20 deer an hour at say average 80 kilo carcass weight is $14400....

What were the prices and costs when Waro was booming?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Could you put some numbers next to these costs.
Don't doubt it adds up fast but would like to see where the big costs lie.

20 deer an hour at say average 80 kilo carcass weight is $14400....

You wouldn't be getting anywhere near that weight given the numbers talked about. And if there are fallow in the mix, well they wouldn't even be worth slowing a helicopter down for.

Originally Posted by mawzer308

Correct however we aren't talking recovery jn the case I referred too, we're talking shoot to wast. Contracted on an hourly rate for a prescribed period, regardless of numbers shot.

In the early nineties it went like this...
$5-6/kg
Hello hours we're fudged
Fuel was cheap
Maintenance was lacking because of fudged hours
Pilot normally wanted enough for beer and smokes and gain hours
Rifles, Ar's and shotguns easily available along with a shooter who knew when the farmer was away
Ground crew was any skid biter that begged to be involved
Chiller trucks weren't required, just cans of unscented flyspray worked

And that's how it was made to work, just can't do that stuff now

$42/kg at peak in 1973 inflation adjusted. Live capture peak about $20,000/hind inflation adjusted in late 70s early 80s.

It was a market bubble driven by various unique economic factors and is never coming back at anything like that level. It will never make a difference to populations again.

Avg carcass weight more like 40kg.

The optimal yield model for them (outside of a market bubble) is to take max sustainable harvest. This does not reduce the population.

It does impact trophy hunting and some localized impacts.

WARO is the rec hunters friend in providing a further economic value for deer populations continuing to exist.