Thread: Deer in Southern areas?

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Come down.. chill. Just ask, the "F" word would `t be necessary. As said, any damage will be covered and beyond. If it was me caused loses, 150 dollars, 1,500 dollars or more, we can talk nicely to solve it, Only an accident, can I?
Alright, by what you said sir, I shall stay away from farmland. Again, just assumption, now I knew. Have nice weekend.

Cheers

Sorry man but you must have violated some aspect of the firearms code such as 'checking firing zone' or 'identifying target beyond all doubt' to harm livestock unless it was a freak accident, like accidental discharge and the bullet just happened to hit a non-target animal. Please be careful, you might end up shooting a person one day if mistakes like that are repeated.

Now that I think about it, some areas have feral sheep to be hunted, so I could only understand being on the border between farmland and docland with sheep and a privately owned sheep makes itself visible?

Yep there is too many. I will often shoot a few just for back steaks when on big missions to try and decrease the numbers in certain areas.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Come down.. chill. Just ask, the "F" word would `t be necessary. As said, any damage will be covered and beyond. If it was me caused loses, 150 dollars, 1,500 dollars or more, we can talk nicely to solve it, Only an accident, can I?
Alright, by what you said sir, I shall stay away from farmland. Again, just assumption, now I knew. Have nice weekend.

Cheers

Eh???
I hope you realise I wasn't actually telling you to F off, I was explaining what my response would be if I was a farmer under your scenario.
The response from most farmers would be similar, and I doubt any farmer would be inviting you back. It probably wouldn't matter anyway as you would likely have your firearms license revoked by the police.
Your scenario is a very serious situation, the penalty for discharging a firearm on land without the owners permission is up to $100,000 or 2 years jail or both, and that's without injuring or killing livestock.

Originally Posted by Cigar

Eh???
I hope you realise I wasn't actually telling you to F off, I was explaining what my response would be if I was a farmer under your scenario.
The response from most farmers would be similar, and I doubt any farmer would be inviting you back. It probably wouldn't matter anyway as you would likely have your firearms license revoked by the police.
Your scenario is a very serious situation, the penalty for discharging a firearm on land without the owners permission is up to $100,000 or 2 years jail or both, and that's without injuring or killing livestock.

Yes. I understand how serious of this scenario, and I do appreciate the situation of what I may be facing if I neglects safety responsibility. As said, I respect local culture and rules of law. May you sir will think how a grownup will ask about this? Because Gimp said there was farmer`s stock been shot by hunter, so following that I ask bit further. Just to try to learn more for the local culture.
Again, I will never do that. Even I am not big fun for GPS, but at least I know how to use compass on map, and I have all the high definition maps for every blocks I may go. printed in waterproof, stored in my backpack. Thank you and good day.

Originally Posted by Black Rabbit

Yes. I understand how serious of this scenario, and I do appreciate the situation of what I may be facing if I neglects safety responsibility. As said, I respect local culture and rules of law. May you sir will think how a grownup will ask about this? Because Gimp said there was farmer`s stock been shot by hunter, so following that I ask bit further. Just to try to learn more for the local culture.
Again, I will never do that. Even I am not big fun for GPS, but at least I know how to use compass on map, and I have all the high definition maps for every blocks I may go. printed in waterproof, stored in my backpack. Thank you and good day.

I never said anything about stock being shot until someone else bought it up...

A farmers stock being shot is normally a deliberate act by irresponsible people. Either they intended to shoot the animal (for the meat, or for "fun"), or they misidentify the animal when illegally spotlighting (i.e think it's a deer).
For example, here is recent post from Facebook:
REWARD OFFERED!!�� PLEASE HELP US!!��PLEASE SHARE FAR AND WIDE!!��We are absolutely beyond heartbroken not only to be contacted while we were away over Easter and told our beautiful Awakeri had broken his leg and had to be pts, but now to come home and find out that he was actually SHOT with a high powered rifle, which broke his leg, which then forced his life to be ended unnecessarily (humanly by a vet). This happened in Matatara Rd, Upokongaro, Whanganui Good Friday night on private land the shooter was either trespassing or on the road. Awakeri only turned 3yrs old in November. He would have been in excruciating pain standing all night in his paddock where he had been happily grazing with the other horses. They were all in the open next to a round pen so no...he could not be mistaken for a deer.

Originally Posted by Cigar

A farmers stock being shot is normally a deliberate act by irresponsible people. Either they intended to shoot the animal (for the meat, or for "fun"), or they misidentify the animal when illegally spotlighting (i.e think it's a deer).
For example, here is recent post from Facebook:
REWARD OFFERED!!�� PLEASE HELP US!!��PLEASE SHARE FAR AND WIDE!!��We are absolutely beyond heartbroken not only to be contacted while we were away over Easter and told our beautiful Awakeri had broken his leg and had to be pts, but now to come home and find out that he was actually SHOT with a high powered rifle, which broke his leg, which then forced his life to be ended unnecessarily (humanly by a vet). This happened in Matatara Rd, Upokongaro, Whanganui Good Friday night on private land the shooter was either trespassing or on the road. Awakeri only turned 3yrs old in November. He would have been in excruciating pain standing all night in his paddock where he had been happily grazing with the other horses. They were all in the open next to a round pen so no...he could not be mistaken for a deer.

Damn. Any chance it could caused by an overshot from distance? couple Years back, I read a article said a boy was shot by a flying bullet came out from bush up north of Taupo or somewhere I can `t remember. The boy was fine, surgery on the shoulder, the father carried beacons and helo came in quick, but lost lots of blood.

Originally Posted by gimp

I never said anything about stock being shot until someone else bought it up...

Maybe I read wrong from your reply on Page2 for the question of why farmers blocked access. I really do `t know people will shoot farmer `s stock in NZ, poachers as far as I heard are those hunting for wild animals in private land without permission. Two of my friend in North said their block was visited regularly by pig hunters since they do `t live on the land. Neighbors told them

Originally Posted by JessicaChen

Sorry man but you must have violated some aspect of the firearms code such as 'checking firing zone' or 'identifying target beyond all doubt' to harm livestock unless it was a freak accident, like accidental discharge and the bullet just happened to hit a non-target animal. Please be careful, you might end up shooting a person one day if mistakes like that are repeated.

Now that I think about it, some areas have feral sheep to be hunted, so I could only understand being on the border between farmland and docland with sheep and a privately owned sheep makes itself visible?

like when stalking in bush and come out to edge and see a deer through light screen of foilage....but not the deer fence between you and deer LOL..... why it really pays to know where you are at all times.