Thread: Is this the end of stapling your pig dog?

Really dont get pig hunting (especially with holders) who would want to eat a dirty old pig that's probably been feeding on all manner of dead rank shit and then on top of that has been chased and in a scrap for the last moments of its life, seems to me that there is one glaringly obvious reason people do it and that's some kind of bloodlust. Every pig hunter I have met seems to consider it some kind of badge of honour all the scars on their dogs. Why not just run bailers if you really have to use dogs? Or better still just run a pointer and shoot the bloody thing without stirring it up and chasing it halfway across the country before killing it.
I have never liked wild pork, have had it quite a few times (all dogged) and it literally makes me dry retch and I'm fairly certain that their diet and the fact they have died in extremely stressful circumstances has a lot to do with that

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Really dont get pig hunting (especially with holders) who would want to eat a dirty old pig that's probably been feeding on all manner of dead rank shit and then on top of that has been chased and in a scrap for the last moments of its life, seems to me that there is one glaringly obvious reason people do it and that's some kind of bloodlust. Every pig hunter I have met seems to consider it some kind of badge of honour all the scars on their dogs. Why not just run bailers if you really have to use dogs? Or better still just run a pointer and shoot the bloody thing without stirring it up and chasing it halfway across the country before killing it.
I have never liked wild pork, have had it quite a few times (all dogged) and it literally makes me dry retch and I'm fairly certain that their diet and the fact they have died in extremely stressful circumstances has a lot to do with that

funny I feel the same way about beef....other than weaner snitzel or corned beef...its a yeah nah for me...venison over beef steak any day.
pork from a sow under 100lb of boar under 100 that HASNT been feeding on carcasses or living in pines is some of the best meat anywhere.
I ran bailer dogs..surethey would hold small stuff if asked,but a bailed pig is not that stressed if dog knows its job,they keep enough pressure on pig to keep it in one place,no more and no less (why border collie/heading dogs are so plurry good at it) pig is ok if he stays still,then gets bullet in the head... not scrapping,not running,not worked up......just a bit nervous then dead.
Ive helped stich up dogs after holders did thier thing....not my cuppa tea.
now days Im happy to let Meg lead me into them then shoot them before they even know Im there.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Really dont get pig hunting (especially with holders) who would want to eat a dirty old pig that's probably been feeding on all manner of dead rank shit and then on top of that has been chased and in a scrap for the last moments of its life, seems to me that there is one glaringly obvious reason people do it and that's some kind of bloodlust. Every pig hunter I have met seems to consider it some kind of badge of honour all the scars on their dogs. Why not just run bailers if you really have to use dogs? Or better still just run a pointer and shoot the bloody thing without stirring it up and chasing it halfway across the country before killing it.
I have never liked wild pork, have had it quite a few times (all dogged) and it literally makes me dry retch and I'm fairly certain that their diet and the fact they have died in extremely stressful circumstances has a lot to do with that

jesus still at the divide and conquer ryan.??
you wont each much wild pork [which you don't care for so couldn't give a fuck anyway ]if you don't have dogs.
personaly I prefer it over even venison and yes like any meat if its a older animal.
that's chased the crap out of or half ripped to shreds its shite.
I no more tar all pig hunters in the rip them in half club or the wasteful bastards who left two rotting down my public dog excercise park as all pighunters.
i was proud to be one in my younger days and know the love of good dogs at their best.
if it illustrates anything its the old adage a few ruin it for the many
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But this is NZ and for now run the hounds. Perfect no agreed , that said neither is poison , baiting or trapping. But we do it for free the others cost the tax payer ..and the dogs they love it!

more to the point they love it cos we love it and them.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Really dont get pig hunting (especially with holders) who would want to eat a dirty old pig that's probably been feeding on all manner of dead rank shit and then on top of that has been chased and in a scrap for the last moments of its life, seems to me that there is one glaringly obvious reason people do it and that's some kind of bloodlust. Every pig hunter I have met seems to consider it some kind of badge of honour all the scars on their dogs. Why not just run bailers if you really have to use dogs? Or better still just run a pointer and shoot the bloody thing without stirring it up and chasing it halfway across the country before killing it.
I have never liked wild pork, have had it quite a few times (all dogged) and it literally makes me dry retch and I'm fairly certain that their diet and the fact they have died in extremely stressful circumstances has a lot to do with that

Bit like letting heifers fend for themselves at calving aye? Watched one run past this year with two legs hanging out the back. Maybe focus your animal welfare urges a little closer to home. Plenty of dairy "farmers" out there torturing animals.

I'm no enthusiast for setting dogs on pigs, but it is a 10,000 year old activity like Dairy farming. We have a shed on this property from the 40s. Still has the girls names written on the wall. Bessy, Blondie, Buttercup etc etc. How times change.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Bit like letting heifers fend for themselves at calving aye? Watched one run past this year with two legs hanging out the back. Maybe focus your animal welfare urges a little closer to home. Plenty of dairy "farmers" out there torturing animals.

I'm no enthusiast for setting dogs on pigs, but it is a 10,000 year old activity like Dairy farming. We have a shed on this property from the 40s. Still has the girls names written on the wall. Bessy, Blondie, Buttercup etc etc. How times change.

Tussock, mate, I was beginning to think we had some kind of uneasy truce going on, so I'm gonna try hold my tongue, but if you had actually read anything you would probably understand that I do a whole FUCK LOAD of focussing my energy on animal welfare issues close to home. Now, about this heifer you saw, was that on my farm? Also were you expecting the calf to come out belly first or something?

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Tussock, mate, I was beginning to think we had some kind of uneasy truce going on, so I'm gonna try hold my tongue, but if you had actually read anything you would probably understand that I do a whole FUCK LOAD of focussing my energy on animal welfare issues close to home. Now, about this heifer you saw, was that on my farm? Also were you expecting the calf to come out belly first or something?

Perhaps near where you were visiting when you were here last, can't say for sure. I never turn own an olive branch, so lets have an uneasy truce. I don't expect it to come out belly first. I do expect it to come all the way out and go into a trailer, rather than run from the grazing block back to the farm 5ks, while calving, with two legs hanging out the back. I'm on corner everyone runs their stock past and I was sickened. Its just fucking lazy. It was not you, so I apologize. We should not lump dairy farmers or pig hunters in together.