Thread: Eugenie Sage

Originally Posted by Bos

Lets face it; she's a Green Party extremist with associated extreme views endorsed, without question, by Forest and Bird.
To say that anything that's "not native " to NZ needs got rid off reinforces her position, and should sound warning bells to us all.
The Tahr are just the thin edge of the wedge; I suspect very soon it will be deer on public land.

Truer than you may know.
Sumner RHA is in real danger of having the deer WAROd. Deer numbers are considered unacceptably high, probably rightly so in some bits. Now would be a good time for the GAC and NZDA to create a precedent there - employ choppers themselves, target hinds and sell the animals (transparently)with any profits returned to better manage the RHA.
In the meantime, anyone hunting that area bomb away and give DOC your numbers.
If DOC lets WARO in - and Ms Sage is more likely than anyone to green light it- it will be the beginning of the end of RHAs

Originally Posted by ethos

Truer than you may know.
Sumner RHA is in real danger of having the deer WAROd. Deer numbers are considered unacceptably high, probably rightly so in some bits. Now would be a good time for the GAC and NZDA to create a precedent there - employ choppers themselves, target hinds and sell the animals (transparently)with any profits returned to better manage the RHA.
In the meantime, anyone hunting that area bomb away and give DOC your numbers.
If DOC lets WARO in - and Ms Sage is more likely than anyone to green light it- it will be the beginning of the end of RHAs

Thats the guts of it. Ive seen the high Tahr numbers in some catchments, and Ive seen the high deer numbers in Lake Sumner and on Molesworth station, but what I dont see is a joint discussion on how best to deal with these specific areas. Instead, its open slather generated by some DOC bureaucrat and his/her political supporters, and this is what has to change

Originally Posted by Bos

Thats the guts of it. Ive seen the high Tahr numbers in some catchments, and Ive seen the high deer numbers in Lake Sumner and on Molesworth station, but what I dont see is a joint discussion on how best to deal with these specific areas. Instead, its open slather generated by some DOC bureaucrat and his/her political supporters, and this is what has to change

DOC's problem is wanting to eradicate all mammals that aren't farmed, Heard some dude on the radio yesterday from DOC and he was getting into rant territory, for a minute I thought he was going to invade Poland it was that OTT

The biggest uncontrolled animal problem in the open dryer country of the South Island is Hares. Hares do an incredible amount of damage to regeneration, nipping off seedlings at ground level and smaller trees about 250 mm above the ground. In any discussion regarding wild animal numbers and population limits hares need to be included. Much high country in Canterbury was burnt in the early days for sheep grazing and now it is retired. Where there are populations of Hares the regen is very slow. My 2c

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

The biggest uncontrolled animal problem in the open dryer country of the South Island is Hares. Hares do an incredible amount of damage to regeneration, nipping off seedlings at ground level and smaller trees about 250 mm above the ground. In any discussion regarding wild animal numbers and population limits hares need to be included. Much high country in Canterbury was burnt in the early days for sheep grazing and now it is retired. Where there are populations of Hares the regen is very slow. My 2c

Your dead right there Moa Hunter.
Most if not all of the big high up basins back in the early ti mid 70's were alive with hares.
When the Thar culling was coming to an end we were asked/told to clean up hares,,found that rather uninteresting work at altitude lol.
Believe it or not grass hoppers were darn thick on the ground then also.
Don't know what hare numbers are like nowadays up on the high stuff.

Originally Posted by doinit

Your dead right there Moa Hunter.
Most if not all of the big high up basins back in the early ti mid 70's were alive with hares.
When the Thar culling was coming to an end we were asked/told to clean up hares,,found that rather uninteresting work at altitude lol.
Believe it or not grass hoppers were darn thick on the ground then also.
Don't know what hare numbers are like nowadays up on the high stuff.

Hare numbers are fair high in my eyes. There is also a large amount of grass hoppers getting around where I hunt


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