Thread: Explaining Hunting to Vegetarians and Animal People

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

The meat hunters don't like the trophy hunters cos they only take the antlers.
The trophy hunters don't like the meat hunters cos they shoot stags in velvet.
The deer hunters think duck hunters are lazy boozy bastards who just like shooting things.
The duck hunters think the deer hunters don't have the patience to wait for a duck and the skill to call it in.
Nobody likes the waro guys.

And the idiots on facebook don't understand how there can be any difference between any of the above groups. Can't we all just get along?

Like it. And as for people getting along. They never have and never will. With exceptions of cause.

[QUOTE=MassiveAttack;384961]That's not actually true. He paid for a guided lion hunt on a not fenced in private land. The guides decided the best way to get a lion in front of this bloke was to kill an antelope, drive it into the national park where the lions were and drag it back to the private land so that the lion followed it out.

That is not the story I read, not saying your wrong here, just that he's a Glory hunter because he makes sure his 'kills' become public knowledge........ego stroker......

I am not shy about discussing it and don't feel the need to apoligise. Also I think explaning it by saying that it's a source of food is a bit of a cop out as not every animal thats shot is eaten. Killing for pest control, thropies and sport is also valid.

If someone ask me why I would kill species X I like to look at them with a puzzled look and say "well they are not going to kill themselves are they?".

The basic truth of the matter is that as a species we are slowly killing all the other life on the planet. If you are a vagatarian then you may not be directly responsable for causing a animal to die but you are directly responsable for encroaching on their habitat which is worse in the long run.

So when you animal rights friends ask you why you feel the need to kill things ask them what used to live on the 1/4 acre section that they live on. Most people would say grass and sheep and before that bush and birds. By occuping that space (and the rest) they are reducing the amount of land that mother nature can occupy on this planet. Then ask them what they have done to directly benifit the birds and animals that live in this country and then talk about the duck ponds you have created and the preaditor control that you do.

Whats worse, shooting a duck in a healthy\increasing population or destroying the habitat that ducks use in order to carve out a lifestyle block to live on? With the former the species still propsers, with the later the species declines.

A particularly wierd thing about NZ is that most greenies\animal rights\vegetarians have no empithy for introduced species. If they did there would be a lot more protests against private cat ownership and 1080.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

If you are a vagatarian...

Pretty sure that's most of this forum.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

I am not shy about discussing it and don't feel the need to apoligise. Also I think explaning it by saying that it's a source of food is a bit of a cop out as not every animal thats shot is eaten. Killing for pest control, thropies and sport is also valid.

If someone ask me why I would kill species X I like to look at them with a puzzled look and say "well they are not going to kill themselves are they?".

The basic truth of the matter is that as a species we are slowly killing all the other life on the planet. If you are a vagatarian then you may not be directly responsable for causing a animal to die but you are directly responsable for encroaching on their habitat which is worse in the long run.

So when you animal rights friends ask you why you feel the need to kill things ask them what used to live on the 1/4 acre section that they live on. Most people would say grass and sheep and before that bush and birds. By occuping that space (and the rest) they are reducing the amount of land that mother nature can occupy on this planet. Then ask them what they have done to directly benifit the birds and animals that live in this country and then talk about the duck ponds you have created and the preaditor control that you do.

Whats worse, shooting a duck in a healthy\increasing population or destroying the habitat that ducks use in order to carve out a lifestyle block to live on? With the former the species still propsers, with the later the species declines.

A particularly wierd thing about NZ is that most greenies\animal rights\vegetarians have no empithy for introduced species. If they did there would be a lot more protests against private cat ownership and 1080.

That would have to be one of the best posts I've read!

As others have said if they are still friends then they are friends. Respect is a two way thing, they need to respect what you do just as much as you need to respect their choices.

On a side note, I tend to open my mouth a little and point to my sharp teeth and remind them that they are canines and incisors made for eating meet. This to me means I'm made for eating meet and that if they don't then that is their abnormal choice.

Oh, and I also point out that I have two forward facing eyes which means I have binocular vision that nature has developed for hunting. Vegetarian animals generally have an eye on each side of the head. If they push their view the question is not so much why I hunt (when I can) but why they don't.

I don't have any vegetarian friends

Originally Posted by enp

I'm 28 and just got into hunting over the last year or so.

I'm on Facebook and when I go hunting (or do anything out of the ordinary) I like to share photos on it to show family and friends what I'm up to. However, I have a few friends who are vegetarian and quite against hurting animals, etc.

I'm pretty good friends with them and would like to continue to be.

However, I'd also like to put up the pics to share with family and friends of pig and deer hunting that I've done as I like sharing the stories and I feel hunting is going to become something I do more often.

On one hand, I've always lived that if people can't accept who I am (i.e. enjoy hunting and fishing) then I couldn't care less if we remain friends or not. However, since I've only recently got into hunting and these two people in particular have been friends for almost a decade, I'm undecided what approach to take.

Sure others have gone through something similar? Thoughts?

Honestly mate, I went though a stage of having Facebook then getting pissed off with the absolute dribble that gets posted so deleting it etc
Then I realised that I should only have friends on there that I want to go to the pub with.
If they don't have a current Fishing or firearms licence I'm not friends with them.

Vegetarian is an old word for the village idiot who couldn't hunt/trap or light a fire isn't it?

They aren't all bad. Have a very good friend (girl) who's been a vege snaffler since the age of seven. This was my birthday present from her. What a champ!

Heaps in the suburb I live in, I love winding them up.

I don't and wouldn't associate with vego's and tree huggers so problem solved.

I hate veges except spuds.

There are plenty of ways to customise your photos/albums and posts on facebook so that the select friends you have who would find your posts distasteful to them do not have to see hunting-specific content on their timelines, but you still get to share with others your ventures.

I'm friends with both vegetarians, vegans and people with specific beliefs and if something I know is going to be offended I just go to the privacy settings of the post, select "custom audience", copy and paste their names in and done.

It's perfectly fine for you and your friends to have differing interests, and you don't have to be apologetic, but it just takes less than a minute to give them their peace of mind as well. You don't have to unfriend them at all.