Thread: Farmer lying about paper road?

Originally Posted by hdc

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, but here it goes. I reckon the farmer is well within his moral (although perhaps not legal) rights. We have a paper road running straight up the guts of our family farm straight past the woolshed and yards and once you let one person through, you let them all through. We have had poachers up there dumb enough to posts photos of themselves on our placeon facebook, 4wd'ers ripping through stock and leaving gates open letting stock loose. It is a real pain in the arse. It may be legal access on paper, but it is not always practical access.

No your being a wanker.

Its a bit like me parking my Dozer across your driveway and saying " you dont need to use that public road when you can just drive acrosd your paddocks".

Originally Posted by norsk

No your being a wanker.

Its a bit like me parking my Dozer across your driveway and saying " you dont need to use that public road when you can just drive acrosd your paddocks".

Righto mate. You've obviously never come home to find someone having a shit in your daffodils. Who pays for the track to be repaired when we get 200mm of rain and the culverts wash out and slips block access. Not the fucking council. When they start stumping up the cash for maintenance, then it can be used by anyone. 95% of the people wanting to use the paper road wouldn't cause an issue, but it's the 5% of entitled wankers that think that because it's a paper road they can go up there and do whatever the fuck they want and cause absolute havoc that ruin it for everyone else.

Originally Posted by hdc

Righto mate. You've obviously never come home to find someone having a shit in your daffodils. Who pays for the track to be repaired when we get 200mm of rain and the culverts wash out and slips block access. Not the fucking council. When they start stumping up the cash for maintenance, then it can be used by anyone. 95% of the people wanting to use the paper road wouldn't cause an issue, but it's the 5% of entitled wankers that think that because it's a paper road they can go up there and do whatever the fuck they want and cause absolute havoc that ruin it for everyone else.

They have a right to use it.
You dont have a right to stop them.

I take it you get to use the track for free though? How many 4x4s go up and down it compared to your farm wagons?

Originally Posted by hdc

Righto mate. You've obviously never come home to find someone having a shit in your daffodils. Who pays for the track to be repaired when we get 200mm of rain and the culverts wash out and slips block access. Not the fucking council. When they start stumping up the cash for maintenance, then it can be used by anyone. 95% of the people wanting to use the paper road wouldn't cause an issue, but it's the 5% of entitled wankers that think that because it's a paper road they can go up there and do whatever the fuck they want and cause absolute havoc that ruin it for everyone else.

I completely understand your point and angst as we have been in that situation on a different property ourselves, however the unformed legal road ( there is no such thing as a paper road ) is not yours no matter how much work you have done to develop it. It belongs to the crown and is under the administration of the local council on the crowns behalf.

Originally Posted by hdc

Righto mate. You've obviously never come home to find someone having a shit in your daffodils. Who pays for the track to be repaired when we get 200mm of rain and the culverts wash out and slips block access. Not the fucking council. When they start stumping up the cash for maintenance, then it can be used by anyone. 95% of the people wanting to use the paper road wouldn't cause an issue, but it's the 5% of entitled wankers that think that because it's a paper road they can go up there and do whatever the fuck they want and cause absolute havoc that ruin it for everyone else.

There is no track mate there and I am not "entitled" I am entitled as are your and everyother new zealander. Id argue this particular cocky is entitled that they in the last 3 years bulldozed a new track that literally runs through all the tops country in the public land with little turn around bays that are clearly for glassing the block with fat lazy paid hunters. If they want it as private land they can pay for it. I will be enquiring with DOC about the legality of this as I understand needing to run a farm etc but what gives them the right to bulldoze new tracks on public land and treat it like a game park? I'd said that's very much "entitled"