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    a] paper roads = councill docs got f all to do with it
    b]if he has a problem then fence the paper road off from his land thru to where it ends.
    that he can do
    but blockin denying vehicular access on a PAPER ROAD to where it ends is illegal unless dangerous existing conditions are involved.
    if it was just for walking accesss itd be called a walking track not a fuckin ROAD
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsp follower View Post
    a] paper roads = councill docs got f all to do with it
    b]if he has a problem then fence the paper road off from his land thru to where it ends.
    that he can do
    but blockin denying vehicular access on a PAPER ROAD to where it ends is illegal unless dangerous existing conditions are involved.
    if it was just for walking accesss itd be called a walking track not a fuckin ROAD
    @GSP not quite. It may be called a paper road, but that does not mean it has to have vehicular access even possible. We have one along our boundary and it runs from the nearby road about 600 metres up behind a row of houses to a dead end. No public land at the end (possibly could call it a public cul de sac or cresent?) While it is wide at one end, it narrows down to a pinch point about 3 feet wide not far from the beginning and opens back up. No one looks after it officially so the neighbouring properties allow the local cocky to mow it for hay during summer. It certainly cannot be driven on. And I know of another that while it is designated a paper road, it is unable to be driven on as the grassy bit between the "tyre ruts" has fully mature pine trees in it so has clearly not been driven on for several decades at the very least...
    Intelligence has its limits, but it appears that Stupidity knows no bounds......

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    um yes it does only dangerous topography or dangerous conditions that prevail can prevent vehicular access
    What status do unformed legal roads have?
    ULRs are no different in law from formed roads. Almost all have a nominal width of 20 metres, implying that they can be used by vehicles. The public have the right to use them on foot, on horse, or in vehicles without hindrance from the adjoining landholder or anyone else.
    However, users of these roads must consider others, including adjoining landholders and their property. The general rules of the road apply and territorial authorities have powers to manage the roads.

    ULRs may be unsuitable for vehicle use and even for walking, because of the topography that they traverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timattalon View Post
    @GSP not quite. It may be called a paper road, but that does not mean it has to have vehicular access even possible. We have one along our boundary and it runs from the nearby road about 600 metres up behind a row of houses to a dead end. No public land at the end (possibly could call it a public cul de sac or cresent?) While it is wide at one end, it narrows down to a pinch point about 3 feet wide not far from the beginning and opens back up. No one looks after it officially so the neighbouring properties allow the local cocky to mow it for hay during summer. It certainly cannot be driven on. And I know of another that while it is designated a paper road, it is unable to be driven on as the grassy bit between the "tyre ruts" has fully mature pine trees in it so has clearly not been driven on for several decades at the very least...
    Go cut the trees down for firewood

 

 

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