Thread: Firearm storage near National park village

I am interested in combining a trip to whakapapa ski field with a hunting trip in the same area

What are the chances someone on here has or knows someone that has storage for a firearm in or around national park village

Would be looking to hunt on days when weather isn’t so flash on the mountain and need storage for days when skiing
Cheers
Mike

Police station?

since you will have a secure storage system in your vehicle to comply with the new rules - leave the rifle there. Its compliant , after all.....

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

since you will have a secure storage system in your vehicle to comply with the new rules - leave the rifle there. Its compliant , after all.....

You can only leave the car unattended for up to an hour I believe.

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

since you will have a secure storage system in your vehicle to comply with the new rules - leave the rifle there. Its compliant , after all.....

Can you, @winchesterM69A, indicate where in the legislation that a firearm is allowed to be left unattended in a vehicle for a long length of time?

My understanding that the time limit is one hour unless the vehicle has the equivalent of an appropriate gun safe.

Good luck with that. Especially if your or the other guys guns are registered.

I’ve pointed this scenario out several times to various people and they all looked at me like I’m mad.
Best I can think of is to hide the gun in your car and take the bolt skiing with you.

A mate I stay with sometimes when I’m away hunting isn’t a fal holder and has little kids in his house, so there’s no way my guns coming inside, Yet according to the law I can’t leave the gun in my Ute overnight either.
What I do there is take the bolt and ammo inside in my bag but leave rifle out of sight in locked Ute, and put Ute inside his yard.

Originally Posted by Maddoghunter

I’ve pointed this scenario out several times to various people and they all looked at me like I’m mad.

Errr, maybe its something to do with your Pseudonym, @Maddoghunter

Not me man. If you want to get all legislationed up - be my guest

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

Not me man. If you want to get all legislationed up - be my guest

So @winchesterM69A on what did you base your comment?
I'm actually interested where your comment came from as it is typical of misinformation around what is legal &/or acceptable.

Was it your understanding of the law & regulations or something someone else had said or written?

Let me put this in context - if it were I , The suggestion I made would probably be my preferred option , if there was no other reasonable option open. I dont ski so its not a position I would find myself in , but taking reasonable and practical steps to secure said firearm in my vehicle , in a manner approved by the current legislation would have to be better than shoving in the wardrobe in a motel unit- would it not???

Originally Posted by winchesterM69A

Let me put this in context - if it were I , The suggestion I made would probably be my preferred option , if there was no other reasonable option open. I dont ski so its not a position I would find myself in , but taking reasonable and practical steps to secure said firearm in my vehicle , in a manner approved by the current legislation would have to be better than shoving in the wardrobe in a motel unit- would it not???

Technically leaving a firearm, unattended, in a motel room breaks the law.
Leaving a firearm in a locked case, case locked to the vehicle, for more than 60 minutes breaks the law.

Those of use who travel have probably done (and may still do) both of these actions. That doesn't make them legal.

As I read the law if you go out for dinner you're meant to take your locked rifle case into the restaurant with you if you're going to be there for more than 60 minutes. The law is stupid, I think we can agree with that.

I take my bolts in a backpack into the restaurant with rifles locked in vehicle.
I can return to vehicle every 55 minutes thereby ensuring that the 60 minute limit is not broken.
Stupid but it is compliant with the law.

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Technically leaving a firearm, unattended, in a motel room breaks the law.
Leaving a firearm in a locked case, case locked to the vehicle, for more than 60 minutes breaks the law.

Those of use who travel have probably done (and may still do) both of these actions. That doesn't make them legal.

As I read the law if you go out for dinner you're meant to take your locked rifle case into the restaurant with you if you're going to be there for more than 60 minutes. The law is stupid, I think we can agree with that.

I take my bolts in a backpack into the restaurant with rifles locked in vehicle.
I can return to vehicle every 55 minutes thereby ensuring that the 60 minute limit is not broken.
Stupid but it is compliant with the law.

Yep, the law leaves you with a Catch 22 situation on these occasions.

I suspect there’s a fair few doing the ‘leave the gun locked in the car but take the bolt with me’ however those with shotguns and lever actions etc don’t have that option so what to do?

I don't know that the police station would be any good. (worth a call to the local arms officer)
One of my mates got pulled up by a Waiouru based cop coming out of the southern access in the last 12 mths or so. Issue was 2 things, guys have been driving up the track to get vehicles out of sight of the road and someone had been taking a quad up the southern access and heading south into the defence land, they even had a helicopter up looking for him.
Mate was on a motor bike and complained about the risk of leaving it in the roadside car park. (No give, it's DOC land and no motorised access you risk getting a warning letter)
Cop offered his personal details and suggested mate could leave his bike at his place in waiouru and he could help get him dropped off and picked up.
Z

Originally Posted by ZQLewis

I don't know that the police station would be any good. (worth a call to the local arms officer)
One of my mates got pulled up by a Waiouru based cop coming out of the southern access in the last 12 mths or so. Issue was 2 things, guys have been driving up the track to get vehicles out of sight of the road and someone had been taking a quad up the southern access and heading south into the defence land, they even had a helicopter up looking for him.
Mate was on a motor bike and complained about the risk of leaving it in the roadside car park. (No give, it's DOC land and no motorised access you risk getting a warning letter)
Cop offered his personal details and suggested mate could leave his bike at his place in waiouru and he could help get him dropped off and picked up.
Z

DoC have not made things easy there, and most certainly have not made the outdoor experience any easier for us. First they actively work against the public's access to the Kaimanawas by promoting Crown land be handed over to Trusts, thereby removing 50% of the Public access points to the Kaimanawas, then they get arsey if you don't want your car broken into in the middle of nowhere, by threatening you if you attempt to hide your car from perps up there......And now they appear ready to launch helo gunships to manage the overpopulation of Deer in the South Western Kaimanawas (if they still have access to the budget to do that sort of stuff)...'cause they have made it oh so hard for hunters to gain access to the Public Estate FFS!!!

Oh..., and no motorised access, UNLESS you are DoC and can drive diggers, bikes, 4 wheelers into all sorts of places as they are working...

Originally Posted by XR500

DoC have not made things easy there, and most certainly have not made the outdoor experience any easier for us. First they actively work against the public's access to the Kaimanawas by promoting Crown land be handed over to Trusts, thereby removing 50% of the Public access points to the Kaimanawas, then they get arsey if you don't want your car broken into in the middle of nowhere, by threatening you if you attempt to hide your car from perps up there......And now they appear ready to launch helo gunships to manage the overpopulation of Deer in the South Western Kaimanawas (if they still have access to the budget to do that sort of stuff)...'cause they have made it oh so hard for hunters to gain access to the Public Estate FFS!!!

Oh..., and no motorised access, UNLESS you are DoC and can drive diggers, bikes, 4 wheelers into all sorts of places as they are working...

Rules for thee..... but not for me, it seems. Unless you are in a special category.