Wow, not even 3 minutes into it and the criminal behaviour begins with the driver drinking a can of beer. That's gotta be cause to revoke a FAL right there if the "fit & proper" test is being applied with renewed vigor.
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Wow, not even 3 minutes into it and the criminal behaviour begins with the driver drinking a can of beer. That's gotta be cause to revoke a FAL right there if the "fit & proper" test is being applied with renewed vigor.
Comments disabled, but video still live????Quote:
Originally Posted by 6x47
Not only is the video poster clearly an idiot, he's too arrogant to take good advice, which fits with the behaviour seen in the video.
I will be absolutely livered if the authorities fail to identify and prosecute these individuals. It would add salt to an already sore wound (the gun law reform), and further reinforce the loss of credibility the authorities have with the law abiding shooting community.
This guys name is reasonably well known so I'm guessing there will be repercussions. I hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
@hotbarrels I wouldn't put the life savings on it. I don't think the cops raided the gang leader who admitted on tv that he wasn't handing any of his guns in because he needed them for "self defense"....Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
Comments on the "Discussion" part of the channel are still open with one negative comment
Before anyone jumps down my throat - in no way do I condone this clowning idiocy
But I think some of you must have lead a fairly sheltered life to not know this sort of crap has been around since Adam was a cowboy (sorry cow person)
I will give you an example or the mentality that surrounds us and is among us today
I spent mid 80's - early 90's literally living in the bush
Would take mates in on occasion to get a Deer etc
Some would open the Tent (later Camp door) and have a piss
I would say "what the fuck are you doing"
They would say "having a piss, what does it look like"
I would say " do you do that at home"
"na mate but we are in the fucking Bush"
There's my point !!!
Starts off drinking and driving, and just gets worse from there... Fit and proper status could be removed as a result of their own evidence.
Glad the authorities are aware.
I get where your coming from but they are at a very public campsite frequented by families for the hotpools then post the shit on the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarvo
Yes I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan F
To put it up on Public UTube just shows how mentally deranged they are.
I have had a bullet go past me within 5-10m in same situation
Back in 1975-ish
We never saw the idiots - think they were trowing beer cans up and shooting or something out of sight about 150m away
My mate and I who were sitting on the tailgate of Ute having a brew, we yelled out and the buggered off quick smart
Also highlighting this is good
"maybe" something official will be done - my cynical side says not
Got the thumbs down from me.
If they just wanted to get on the piss, could of got together for a drink or two watching NZ hunter Adventures for some tips on how it is done.
I've been a witness to such behaviour at Oamaru Hut in the Kaimanawas. Two guys from Auckland arrived at the hut absolutely pissed rifles in hand. They proceeded to try cook some food, stumble around kicking their dog, and questioning me and my mates hunting ability. It was humerous at first but as dark approached they thought spotlighting with firearms would be a good idea as it was the only way to hunt sika. While they fumbled around outside I removed the bolts and threw them under there sleeping bags. They walked around the hut numerous times trying to find them and eventually gave up. They consumed more alcohol and got to a point they could hardly stand up. Me and my mate retired to bed well before they calmed down. Really put me off hunting public land for awhile. Havnt been back since and that was 5 years ago.
What does it matter the came from Auckland heaps of dick heads come from other places
Any forum members on that video should be banned from here.
Come on, you know perfectly well that on the four level scale Aucklanders' mainly operate at L3 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by warrior
True that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil_H
In fact I won’t even have a single beer if I’m off hunting in the immediate future or even in the next few hours
But then that’s just MY principle.
Yep, beers come out when any gun handling is finished. Its in the arms code.
If he is a member of the forum why can’t he explain he’s reasons around why he needed to post a video of this nature on utube.
Come on bro front up
As Sarvo has pointed out, this type of carry on is by no means new: Early 80's a mate possuming in the Tararuas heard people coming along the track, and as he's a shy type, he headed uphill about 50m and hid behind some bushes. His dog wouldn't sit still, and the "hunters" must have picked up a bit of the movement and emptied the 10 round mag semi in his general direction. "Nah, must have been the wind" and they carried on....
He did a BIG detour to get back to the hut, picked up his gear and buggered off to the next watershed.
Whats different in the 21st C is that these 'dumb and dumber' types think its cool to stick up on YT all the evidence one needs to write them off as law breaking morons:yuush:
@LarskramerQuote:
Originally Posted by ariki
There you go @ariki that should help you out.
This thread is just so disappointing, good on the OP for posting it but i still find it very disappointing !!
Last thing we need in this current world is this sort of thing !!!!
Shame on you if you think this behaviour is acceptable.
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Wounder if they got their character reference from people they met online or maybe each other??
Popcorn witch hunt Popcorn witch hunt oh to be perfect and sensible all the time .[emoji23]
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I think that mostly people are tolerant of stupid so long as its reasonably harmless. Your comment might fit that category. But there are degrees of stupid. This lot took the cake.Quote:
Originally Posted by NRT
witch hunt.......... so I take it they are mates of yours??? or you condone this behaviour???????
yip , ok,fit n proper status JUST BECAME questionable.........
moderators ...please have a look and if any on this video are indeed forum members...well that reflects badly on us all.....just like another's actions did two years ago...
I disagree to an extent. If people show poor behavior or have poor ideas they can get direct opposition from others in the open, and of course get a fine or worse from law enforcement. Being banned can send them to darker corners of the internet where they will receive no criticism and continue with bad habits. Hopefully they learn and improve in the future, instead of getting pushed away feeling spiteful only to become worse. Of course if the forum rules state to not promote illegal activity and users start to promote illegal activity, no problems with banning.Quote:
Originally Posted by outdoorlad
Its when you are not sensible with firearms is when somebody or somebody's dog ends up with a hole in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by NRT
None of us older gents have been sensible all our lives but to video it and then put it onto YouTube is just dumb.
Let alone there respective or potential employees seeing there Character when out with the boys.
Well mischief is all fun until you get caught and this lot are pleading with the law to be put through the wringer.
Old link but I think it is still the case..........Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/beer-s...NHOG7XBJGPLEI/
However, irrespective of whether its legal or not, its just asking for trouble. Firstly, any insurance company can void your policy if you were driving while drinking, even if you were under the limit.........Secondly, if stopped by the Police, the fresh alcohol in your mouth will almost invariably give a positive reading leading to more tests and a delay in your travel arrangements......Thirdly, I cant imagine any enforcement officer not taking a very dim view of the fact that you are drinking while driving and have firearms in the car....
I like how Road safety campaigner Clive Matthew-Wilson compares having an open drink in a car to having a gun in the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allgood
"It's like saying you're allowed to drive carrying a handgun as long as you're not shooting anyone."
One day the word 'handgun' will be replaced with just 'gun', i reckon.
To post it online is a concern,I so would not do that amateurs [emoji869]
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Whats the bet that young fella didn't pick up his can he stomped into the ground at 44:06 and take it back with him?
Big call I hope he would have ,cause litteres are the scum of the earth [emoji289]Quote:
Originally Posted by Allizdog
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Gees that was punishing to flick through, I certainly couldn't have watched the whole thing. I just hope like hell there is nobody out there watching that and thinking all us 'hunters' are like this. What a terrible way to represent hunters, it's bad enough this happened in a public campsite but to be posted on the net is next level... 🤦*♂️
Wow. That was bad. Kind of like seeing the grown up result of what would happen if Fred Dagg's Trevor's bred with Lyn of Tawa.
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Years ago I did a trip with a crew like that. Ive thought about it often. Not as bad behaviour as depicted, but probably because I was doing my best to limit them. The worst they did was drink their bottle of rum and set it up to shoot the empty. I walked over and smashed it to prevent that happening. General loud mouth bullish behaviour I was not comfortable being associated with. It unsurprisingly was a trip where all came home empty handed despite me seeing a really nice Sika stag 400 odd meters from camp. All that was needed was to stay quiet in camp a few hours, but they could not.. I ended the weekend feeling like someones nagging mum, and knew thats how they thought of me.
I never hunted with them again, and I don't think anyone would blame me. But, I keep thinking if they are left too their selfs, they will just end up with more idiots as good hunters avoid them. Thankfully their lack of success over the years has seen them pretty much give up and move on to other activities, like discussing the merits of fords and holdens..
if they discussed that in the bush the silence would be deafening...................Quote:
Originally Posted by whanahuia
Out of Towner chiming in, i was "exposed" to these Buggers via a friendly facebook page im part of, the posters were shocked..
good to see it has blown up into a storm in a tea cup on the Forum!............
I just wanna say- IT might have been going on for 40 years or more, it might not be new, ETc etc........ BUT ITS GOT TO STOP.
its the same here in Australia. This sort of stuff must be called out if we are to have a future in being able to do this public land hunting.
my opinion is Hunters calling out the illegal hunting, Reporting to authorities willg o along way, Nothing to hide if Ya not up to no good.... is my theory.
Good on yas for gettin into the clowns.
I think a few of us older buggers have seen this kind of thing a fair bit over the years. It is the absolute pits when a crew like this turn up where you are already camped. Sadly me and my wife have learnt to accept that it will happen from time to time, and we will simply pull up the tent pegs, pack up camp and move on without a second thought. One benefit is over the years we have learnt to camp very light. But it’s bloody annoying.
We cannot kid ourselves about how prevalent this kind of thing is. I’ve posted on here before about a night I spent at the Catlins Inn Owaka, about 5 yrs ago, on a road trip finding interesting new public land to hunt. Saturday night, All Blacks vs Australia, probably two dozen of the young hunters and their girls in the pub before the local pig hunting competition at the rugby club the next morning.
They got totally shitfaced and then at closing time went out spotlighting in the forestry up Morris Saddle Road.
Three utes, all drunk as fuck, none of the staff or locals in the pub batted an eyelid.
I slept in the little lean to behind the pub and visited the pig hunting competition the next morning, some of them were there, looking very very shabby indeed.
I hate to say this, and you know where I’m coming from, but it is part of the culture in some areas and in some parts of the general community. I’ve got a few more war stories like this, from out the back of Raetihi, one time up Watershed Road in the Wanganui, just recently on the east side of the Tararuas. Was with the family that time, middle of the night, very very bloody annoying. And what goes on on private land would make your hair stand on end.
Theres a time when the general public of hunters must split or ackowledge the boundarys for this hunting Caper ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyblown
it happen here Also.
Im talking about the Private behaviour that is basically " illegal hunting " anywhere else in the World, outside those fences....
the piss ups, the shoot ups, the bomb ups, the Spotlighting / walk lighting and now Thermalling, the burn outs , etc..... it all stems from Private land hunting, and washes out into the Public land sector , in which a legitimate Recreational hunter is a stakeholder by paying their fees to use that land as recreational hunting areas.
inside of this , we should be all aware, is "game animals" and under that comes a whole heap of Rules which is set to allow us to do what we are doing , 'walking around with rifles persuing game animals' .......
the private these days i pretty much have written off, it is a free for all, the Deer are seen as Pests inside those fences and with that comes the Open slather effect........
i just wish these "Legends" with their thermals would quite literally Fuck off onto Private land and use their expensive tool as a massive Help to the local farmers , by this, Targetting and killing as many deer as they want, but using the thermal to target problematic Dogs ........
instead they are all up in the "Recreational hunting areas" / National Parks , slinking around like closet poofs , targetting a Recreational hunters trophy deer...... an nothing else.
thats pretty laaaaaame ....
the "hunts" lost, but its up to Us to re portray that "Hunt" as the single most important aspect, especially if we are Youtubing......... thats where the kids are learning 100%..... it is not by going out for a hunt with the old local guru on his farm, its going over the Shoulder of guys like JJKB, Dooleys, the plethora of long range sniper guys in camo, JE wild man, etc, so instead of using the Social media as a Show Off platform, use it as an educational or Real, with some good ethic an responsible behaviour shown will go a long way an get a better Rep than blowin over the baby velvets at 572y for content fillers....
in aus we have youtubers, Thermalling off camera, creating "hunting videos"........... what the fucks
Fly blown, you hit the nail on the head. When I was watching the video I was thinking this behaviour doesnt steam from just a few individuals, but its passed down through a generational chain that was more acceptable back in the day.
well folks....just this very afternoon I went out for public land hunt in thick bush...couple or 4 hours for no result,get out onto road,200yards from truck and cop rings me...its such n such from police where are you????
Im thinking awesome a SAR callout....tell him where I am...he says he is at my wagon how far away am I...about 30 seconds says I.....NOW IT TURNS OUT SOMEBODY ELSE also hunting with a dog....or dogs had just been seen over on private land nearby.....fella mustve got fright at how close by I was.....as fella seen poaching was at least 1km away across small river simple maths would say i cant be there that quickly, luckily had my FAL on me..permit not so much as electronic permit system means its in email only and my phone doesnt have that...
so who ever was out poaching THANKS A WHOLE bunch.....my pleasant afternoon turned to shit fast...my wife paniced when cop phoned asking if we owned the wagon..she thinking car wreck....
oh and the two other hunters who were there...one was using night vision gear...big scope on rifle night vision.....seems strange thing to use if hunting in daylight....